Thank you. Mr. Chairman, just looking through some of the pages of the budget, if the Minister could obtain for me the amount of funding that is given to a visitors' centre. I guess the point I want to make is that the visitors' centre in my community of Fort Smith was built totally by the community with no government funding. The amount of funding they get now is very minimal. I think it's something to the tune of $16,000 a year.

The concern I have is being in a community south of the lake where we have our season of tourists starting very early compared to normal spring season; I think that amount is inadequate. When you look at the amount of this budget with $7.3 million in this particular activity, $16,000 is very little. I think the community should be commended for that. At the same time, I also believe that if you're going to start looking at these lucrative visitors' centres and they're going to be underutilized, then maybe the government should be looking to spend their dollars in a more economical sense and repriorizing their funding accordingly.

Mr. Chairman, I also want to ask with respect to...I recognize that the Business Credit Corporation is at arm's length, it's a Crown agency. I would like to ask if there are any policies -- and I recognize that the Business Credit Corporation just came up a few years ago -- or procedures in place to ensure once you get your loan agreements or any type of credit contribution, that they're repaid accordingly? The problem that I have noticed is the continual monitoring is not on a consistent basis, where many of your loans may fall back, then maybe a year later there is all of a sudden a lot of pressure placed on these different businesses to repay these particular loans.

I get some criticism because of it being government loans, of many people not paying back. As a result, community members feel they will be forgotten about. Then later on, the department comes in with an extreme amount of pressure trying to collect these loans. Like any other bank, if you don't pay your loans, they take their measures and address them. But it seems like the measures taken by the department at times are inconsistent and cause concern in the communities. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.