This is page numbers 401 - 429 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 7th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was election.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Mr. Koe.

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Fred Koe Inuvik

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I, too, will not be supporting the motion. I've heard all the arguments expressed by my colleagues who are also not supporting the motion and I agree with most of their comments. I won't be supporting this motion for a very practical reason and that's because in the Beaufort/Delta communities in the month of June, the majority of the people are out spring hunting or fishing; the muskrat season in the Delta closes on June 15th and a lot of the families will still be out at their camps or packing up to come back to town. There's also, in the spring, a danger of floods and other things that could happen. It's very difficult to campaign or have people even care about what's going on in an election campaign if they're out in the bush. People have a democratic right to vote and to be able to cast their ballot on election day, therefore I do not support a spring election.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Are there any more comments to the amendment? Mrs. Marie-Jewell, your comments will close the debate.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Thank you. Just a quick closing remark. Mr. Speaker, I know many of my colleagues have stated that we did plan for a fall election and I know that we made that agreement well over a year ago. However, I want Members to know that well over a year ago, we didn't know we were going to absorb a $38 million deficit; we didn't know we were going to face that. We also didn't know that we were going to be looking at a $58 million cut from the federal government. It's basically with that in mind, giving proper planning for the next government that I had placed forth these amendments. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. To the amendment.

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An Hon. Member

Recorded vote.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Recorded vote has been called. All those in favour, please stand.

Recorded Vote

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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton

Mrs. Marie-Jewell, Mr. Zoe, Ms. Mike.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

All those opposed to the amendment, please stand.

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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton

Mr. Patterson, Mr. Pudlat, Mr. Dent, Mr. Ballantyne, Mr. Koe, Mr. Antoine, Mr. Pudluk, Mr. Allooloo, Mr. Arngna'naaq, Mr. Ng, Mr. Pollard, Ms. Cournoyea, Mr. Kakfwi, Mr. Morin, Mr. Nerysoo, Mr. Whitford, Mr. Ningark, Mr. Lewis.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

All those abstaining from the motion, please stand. The result of the vote on the amendment: three for; 18 against; and, no abstentions. This amendment is defeated.

---Defeated

To the main motion again. Mr. Zoe.

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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I did vote in favour of the proposed amendment but since it has been defeated we're back to the question of having the election on October 16th. In my constituency, Mr. Speaker, holding an election in that particular month causes a lot of problems because in the west we do have a lot of bad weather; it's usually snowing, et cetera. Mr. Speaker, I would like to move an amendment to the motion.

Motion To Amend Motion 11-12(7), Defeated

I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Thebacha, that the motion be amended by deleting August 31, 1995 and substituting July 20, 1995.

And further, by deleting October 16, 1995 and substituting September 4, 1995. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. The motion to amend Motion 11-12(7) is in order. To the amendment. Mr. Zoe.

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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Thank you. Mr. Speaker, as I indicated, I would have preferred a spring election but, unfortunately, that's not

the wish of the House. However, Mr. Speaker, my amendment will still allow for a fall election but for a September 4th vote. This will still provide more time for the important work that needs to be completed on our budget, as indicated by Mrs. Marie-Jewell earlier. Again, Mr. Speaker, I believe that next year's budget will be critical for the future progress and fiscal security of the Northwest Territories and I urge all Members to ensure that there is enough time for the new government to carry out the required level of planning and consultation.

I anticipate, Mr. Speaker, that some honourable Members may be concerned that the election would be held so close to Labour Day. I would suggest that this should not be an issue. The majority of Members, I believe, will be campaigning anyway. People across the Northwest Territories realize the importance of this election. They will be participating regardless of whether the voting day follows a holiday or not. Indeed, Mr. Speaker, holding an election at this time may actually maximize the sort of coverage that our election issues received in the national media; something that may be critical in persuading southern Canadians on our positions in matters such as the federal firearms legislation, the development of our mineral industry, and the finalization of our new fiscal relationship with the Government of Canada. We need to remember, Mr. Speaker, that there could be as many as four or five other provinces holding elections this coming fall.

Mr. Speaker, the main reason I would urge Members to support my amendment is because it represents a compromise. We have a tradition of being able, through consensus, to strive toward a position that respects and honours the different perspectives that Members bring from the far corners of our jurisdictions.

I have a strongly-held position on the scheduling of the territorial election; one that I believe reflects the feeling of many residents of North Slave and other constituencies. My honourable colleagues have made their own decisions to support a different point of view and I can respect that, Mr. Speaker. You can't win them all but, in turn, I would urge Members of this House to similarly respect the view of many northerners who don't want to see the election put off until October. I would urge Members to allow for adequate budgetary planning and for a new mandate from the people without any unnecessary delay. For the sake of consensus government and the spirit of compromise that is so important for our work in this place, I would urge all Members to vote in support of the amendment that I put forward. Thank you.

---Applause

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Seconder of the motion, Mrs. Marie-Jewell.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Question.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

To the amendment, Mr. Lewis.

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Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre

I'll be very brief, Mr. Speaker. I certainly respect the Member, but this issue has been around a long time. When is the best time to do anything? We could go through the whole calendar, as we have done in the past, and end up coming up with the same result.

Mr. Speaker, the problem that I have with an election that would take place on September 4th is that, although I'm still fairly fast that I can get around very quickly, there are 17,000 people in this city and many of them take off for holidays during the time that school is out; that's in July and August. So what happens is that if I'm going to have to get to people and campaign between the 31st of August and the 4th of September, I'm going to have to be much faster than I have been in the past.

---Laughter

And I don't think it's a reasonable thing to ask somebody, as the oldest person in this House, to have to cram a campaign into the last three or four days of the 45 days that would be available. It's not fair to me, Mr. Speaker.

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An Hon. Member

Hear, hear.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

To the amendment.

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Some Hon. Members

Question.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Question has been called. Mr. Zoe, your closing remarks will close the debate.

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Henry Zoe

Henry Zoe North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thought that I could be the person who had a compromise for all Members, the ones who are in support of a spring versus a late fall election.

Mr. Speaker, although I respect the comments of my elderly colleague from Yellowknife...

---Laughter

...Centre, I have to indicate to him that the election period is 45 days, and the election period will start on July 20th until we have the election on September 4th. The majority of his constituents, I believe, usually take their holidays during the months of July, so I would suspect the majority of them who have school children will be back in the city for the vote on September 4th. Everybody would have the same opportunity, Mr. Speaker, to campaign because that campaign period is set through legislation. So I would ask the Members to support this particular amendment. I would call for a recorded vote.

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Some Hon. Members

Question.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Question is being called. All those in favour, please stand.

Recorded Vote