Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just so there's no confusion about our position, I want to at least be able to ensure that we have a capacity to deliver educational programming at the community level. There are some things that we're already doing that allow for the pre-trades training. I think the building and learning initiative that we've undertaken in the community, which includes the matter of actually formal education, is something that I think we have been very successful at, along with Public Works and Services and the Housing Corporation. So in that sense, I think we have an ability to move in that direction.

I think the problem that seems to arise around this whole issue of trades training -- and I think the Member has pointed it out -- is simply there seems to be a pure debate on the issue of facilities, and not necessarily how we might be able to improve the programs and services at the community level. I think you've highlighted that and said there are other ways we can do it. It's our view that we can do those kinds of things. There's the possibility of module-type training opportunities; the issue of moving instructors from one community to another community on a rotational basis; different types of instruction, whether or not it's heavy equipment or whether or not it's plumbing, whether or not it's home maintenance; whatever it is, I think we have that opportunity.

The debate sometimes gets bogged down purely in the issue of facilities. My concern would be if we are to worry about facilities in order for us to deliver programs, then we would not be offered a lot of adult programs in our communities. In other words, that would have been the basis of our argument. So I think the honourable Member has pointed out an issue that, if we could sit down with the Nunavut education leadership and the Nunavut Arctic College and see that there are opportunities in the short term that can provide for these training opportunities in the Nunavut communities. I think we can solve the problem.