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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. The honourable Minister.

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, just to advise the honourable Member that there is an increase in our budget of some $57,000 and an increase of one PY. I know that we are not certain whether or not that is going to be satisfactory, but I do want to say to the honourable Member I think there are enough combined resources that are being provided. For instance, in the case of the registration for some claims that can help us, if we can get the appropriate information from the aboriginal groups that can, hopefully, streamline this process. It can be very helpful in terms of indicating -- through the registration of beneficiaries -- who is eligible and who has, through custom adoption, changed their family situation.

Hopefully, we can work with them and get the appropriate information. It will be much simpler if we can work together.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Patterson.

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Dennis Patterson Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for your indulgence. Just one final question. I am only asking the Minister because I am going to get asked and I have been asked already. Could the Minister give me an idea of when he thinks I will be able to tell my constituents this process will be in place and you can make an application for your child? Does the department have a target date that we can tell our constituents? Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Yes, Mr. Minister.

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Not to create a situation where people confine us within the date, but we are trying to work around the implementation date of September 1st this coming year. That will be dependent upon the action plan we adopt, the regulations and the plan of action we propose, because if we are not convinced that the training we have offered is complete, obviously we may need extra time to complete that training, but that is certainly the goal. The very latest we wish this thing to be implemented is December 1995. That is our goal and within that window, hopefully, we can have it done. The sooner the better, as the honourable Member has pointed out, for the people who have to have this work done on their behalf.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. I believe the honourable Member for Iqaluit is satisfied. Details of grants and contributions.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair John Ningark

Grants and contributions, $10,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair John Ningark

On page 07-16, information item, Liquor Commission revolving fund. Agreed on the information item?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair John Ningark

Yes, Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. On the information item regarding the Liquor Commission revolving fund, in the 1994-95 revised forecast we see revenue of $30.672 million -- that was the revenue for this current year -- and the total O and M is $15.504 million; therefore, there is a profit of $15.168 million for the sale of liquor in the Northwest Territories for 1994-95. In 1996, there is an estimated total revenue of $32.402 million, the estimated total O and M is $15.465 million and the estimated profit is $16.937 million. I would like to ask

the Minister what is the estimated revenue of $32.402 million based on. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. The honourable Minister.

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

I believe that is a calculation that is based on the sales, the price increases that have been proposed and the anticipated consumer utilization of the product.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

I would like to ask the Minister again, is the Minister saying that the amount of liquor that is going to be sold in the Northwest Territories is going to increase by $1.8 million?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The calculation is based on two things: price increase and volume increase. In other words, the price increase that is being proposed by the government and the other component is our percentage calculation of volume increase. It is approximately three per cent per year that the volume is increasing.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Yes, Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In the definitive objectives in the directorate, this department is developing new liquor legislation. Is the new liquor legislation that is currently being developed going to include the total revenue and O and M of this department?

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The Chair John Ningark

Qujannamiik. Mr. Minister.

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. There are a number of components you have to look at with the liquor legislation. The liquor legislation basically guides us in terms of managing liquor use. The matter that is before you in terms of the Liquor Commission, deals with marketing. I guess what the honourable Member is asking is whether there is a combination of those two. I'm not certain if it's possible, until I have some indication of what the legislation is going to be, whether there should be an amalgamation of those responsibilities. Right now, obviously, the two are separate and have said the commission has to function as an independent body.

We, as a government, take their surplus revenues and put it in our general revenue and then allocate them to other social, educational, or other programs in government. I think it is very difficult to know if there is going to be a combination but, certainly, we have to address both issues in our legislation.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Is it agreed?