Well, Mr. Speaker, I'm not particularly happy with that answer. When a Minister is asked about whether he has consulted, the question includes whether or not he has had his officials and deputy -- who is in regular liaison with judges, the defence bar, Crown prosecutors, et cetera -- consult about proposed changes. I'd like to ask the Minister whether he has talked to these organizations or people, directly or not. Has his department consulted with the major users of this service about substantial changes that are proposed in this vital service? Thank you.