That was the point he made in his opening comment. If you read Hansard tomorrow, and I'll quote him, he said he would be voting against this bill. Well, you're not going to be voting against this bill at the second reading...

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You're going to be voting against the principle of the bill and he's already said in his opening comment that he agrees with the principle. If you read Hansard tomorrow, the philosophy of this bill, the basis of this bill, he agrees with. We're not going to have a chance to vote on this bill today because it will never get to be a bill on which that would make a difference at all to what happens to this thing. We're talking about ideas, the basic foundation of it. If we ever get there, well fine, if it's not good enough despite all the work that's done, he can vote against it.

But at this time, we're only talking about one thing, do you believe that the public should have the opportunity to recall a Member before that person's term is up. I've heard very, very few people who have given me one good reason why the public shouldn't have that power.

I'm a democrat, I believe in the democratic process so, therefore, I'm quite happy to sit down now and I will ask for a recorded vote on this particular motion, Mr. Speaker.

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