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Bill 20: Loan Authorization Act, 1995-96
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Clause 6.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Clause 7.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Clause 8.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Clause 9.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Clause 10.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Bill as a whole.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you. Does the committee agree that Bill 20, Loan Authorization Act, 1995-96, is ready for third reading?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Bill 20 is now ready for third reading. I would like to take this opportunity to thank the Minister and his witnesses for assisting the committee. What is the wish of the committee?

Bill 22: Forgiveness Of Debts Act, 1994-95
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The Chair Tony Whitford

Bill 22, Forgiveness of Debts Act, 1994-95. Is the Minister responsible for the bill prepared to introduce the bill to the committee? Mr. Pollard.

Minister's Introductory Remarks

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John Pollard Hay River

Mr. Chairman, thank you. The purpose of the Forgiveness of Debts Act, 1994-95 is to authorize the forgiveness of certain write-offs listed in the schedule to the act. Pursuant to section 25(1) of the Financial Administration Act, the forgiveness of a debt or obligation exceeding $1,000 to the government and most boards and agencies must receive Legislative Assembly approval. When a debt is forgiven, no further collection action shall be pursued. The forgiveness being proposed in this act will not require a new appropriation. Allowance for doubtful accounts appropriations were affected at the time it was determined that collection of the debt was considered unlikely.

Even though an account is written off, Financial Management Board Secretariat government accounting still pursues collection action against the debtor. In the files that have been identified for forgiveness, it is determined that collection of the debt is no longer possible. Mr. Chairman, a large component of the accounts being forgiven are bankruptcies, negotiated settlements and unsubstantiated debts. The number of accounts being forgiven this year is significant, due to the fact that the last forgiveness act was for the year 1988-89. A review of the write-off files is being conducted on an ongoing basis. To date, these files have been identified for forgiveness. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Thank you, Mr. Minister. Is the chairman of the Standing Committee on Finance prepared to make his comments? But before I turn to you, I noticed Mr. Dent had his hand up. I would like to take this opportunity to recognize in the gallery, the Honourable Ethel Blondin-Andrew, Member of Parliament for the Western Arctic.

---Applause

Here we are, now wasn't that worth the wait, Mr. Dent? The chair recognizes Mr. Dent.

Standing Committee On Finance Comments

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Certainly, Mr. Chairman. I have the report on behalf of the Standing Committee on Finance.

Mr. Chairman, the Standing Committee on Finance reviewed Bill 22 on April 5, 1995. Members discussed the bill and agreed that it should be moved into committee of the whole for further discussion and action.

The total amount of the debts being forgiven by this bill is substantial, over $1.25 million. Standing committee Members understand that many of these losses were the result of bankruptcy or negotiated settlements with debtors and that the amounts are unrecoverable.

However, Members may have some questions regarding some of the items in this bill and we'll take this opportunity to raise them with the Minister. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Minister would you like to take the witness stand. Will you need some assistance with other member of your department to deal with this matter?

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John Pollard Hay River

If I might, Mr. Chairman.

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Does the committee agree than that the Minister take the stand and bring in witnesses?

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An Hon. Member

Agreed.

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Thank you. Mr. Sergeant-at-Arms, would you help the Minister.

Welcome, Mr. Minister. Would you please introduce you witness to the committee.

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John Pollard Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have with me Mr. Lew Voytilla, the secretary to the Financial Management Board. Thank you.