Operations and maintenance, $75.365 million.
Debates of April 7th, 1995
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Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1995-96Committee Report 4-12(7): Report On The Review Of The 1995-96 Main Estimates
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Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1995-96Committee Report 4-12(7): Report On The Review Of The 1995-96 Main Estimates
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
---Agreed
Health And Hospital Boards
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The Chair Tony Whitford
Thank you. Health and hospital boards, operations and maintenance, total O and M. The chair recognizes the Member for Iqaluit.
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Dennis Patterson Iqaluit
Just one question, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I know the Minister is aware that some boards consistently have a shortfall. The Baffin health board is one. I am told that on their approximately $18 million budget, there has historically been about $500,000 shortfall. The board simply doesn't have enough money to deliver the services that it is mandated to provide. Every year they submit a budget of what is required and it seems that it is always short.
I understand, Mr. Chairman, that the Minister has committed to reviewing the formula for funding health boards in the territories with a view to ensuring equity, fairness and consistency. Could I confirm that this review is under way and that it hopefully will address the historic problems that some health boards seem to have with inadequate base funding? Thank you.
Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1995-96Committee Report 4-12(7): Report On The Review Of The 1995-96 Main Estimates
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1995-96Committee Report 4-12(7): Report On The Review Of The 1995-96 Main Estimates
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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, yes, the study is under way. Part of the problem is that the formula that is
supplied is really an inadequate formula, so we are well on our way to addressing that. Hopefully, that will take away some of the concerns of the health boards who feel that it is almost impossible to budget properly because the formula just doesn't fit the categories of the delivery system that they have. We recognize that and the plan is to fix it so that they can operate in a reasonable way each year.
Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1995-96Committee Report 4-12(7): Report On The Review Of The 1995-96 Main Estimates
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1995-96Committee Report 4-12(7): Report On The Review Of The 1995-96 Main Estimates
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Dennis Patterson Iqaluit
Mr. Chairman, this is good news and I am very pleased that it is under way. I know it has been taken seriously by the department. Could I just ask what time frame is anticipated to complete this review and get the new formula in place?
Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1995-96Committee Report 4-12(7): Report On The Review Of The 1995-96 Main Estimates
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1995-96Committee Report 4-12(7): Report On The Review Of The 1995-96 Main Estimates
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Nellie Cournoyea Nunakput
Mr. Chairman, the plan is to have it concluded by the end of the year so it will be ready for the next government. The agreements between the health boards and the government are almost all concluded, so now we can get to work on an equal and trusting footing so that we can get this job done.
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The Chair Tony Whitford
Thank you, Madam Minister. Health and hospital boards, operations and maintenance, total O and M, $93.785 million.
Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1995-96Committee Report 4-12(7): Report On The Review Of The 1995-96 Main Estimates
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
---Agreed
Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1995-96Committee Report 4-12(7): Report On The Review Of The 1995-96 Main Estimates
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1995-96Committee Report 4-12(7): Report On The Review Of The 1995-96 Main Estimates
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
---Agreed
Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1995-96Committee Report 4-12(7): Report On The Review Of The 1995-96 Main Estimates
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1995-96Committee Report 4-12(7): Report On The Review Of The 1995-96 Main Estimates
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
---Agreed
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The Chair Tony Whitford
Grants and contribution, $114.449 million. The chair recognizes the Member for Baffin Central.
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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Can we go back to community programs and services, $290,000?
Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1995-96Committee Report 4-12(7): Report On The Review Of The 1995-96 Main Estimates
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Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1995-96Committee Report 4-12(7): Report On The Review Of The 1995-96 Main Estimates
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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta
Mr. Chairman, I was just going to ask if we could conclude the call on the dollar figures and then return back to the issue that the honourable Member wanted to address.
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The Chair Tony Whitford
Thank you. We can go back, if the committee agrees. We have just covered these items and have spent considerable time at it. I will ask one more time, then we can conclude this and refer back to that section.
Grants and contributions, $114.449 million.
Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1995-96Committee Report 4-12(7): Report On The Review Of The 1995-96 Main Estimates
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
---Agreed
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The Chair Tony Whitford
Thank you. We shall go back to health services development. Is that the item, Ms. Mike?
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Rebecca Mike Baffin Central
Under grants, community programs and services, there is a $100,000 growth from last year, an increase on Foster Parent Association foster homes. Is that an increase of children in foster care or has the fee been increased?
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The Chair Tony Whitford
Thank you, Ms. Mike. For reference for the committee, it is on page 12-14 at the top of the page, community programs and services. Madam Premier.