I think that has probably addressed the concern, but just so I understand completely, if for instance there was to be an addition of grades 7 to 9, rather than expanding L'Ecole Allain St-Cyr, you're saying that the French Parents Association should basically start another conseil and have a different school. If they did that that would perhaps enable them, if they have sufficient numbers, to meet the requirements of this act. Or, as Ms. Joyce has just pointed out, if a conseil in lqaluit and a conseil in Yellowknife wanted to, they could get together and petition the Minister. Is that a correct understanding?
Debates of June 21st, 1995
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Committee Motion 87-12(7): To Amend Clause 84 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta
Certainly, Mr. Chairman, if they were able to have those school situations where they had the numbers, they would be eligible for that. In the case of two communities working together, it was our intent to enable those scenarios to occur, to be more supportive rather than restrictive. The interpretation might have gone the other way, but that is certainly not our intention.
Committee Motion 87-12(7): To Amend Clause 84 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Minister. Next I'll recognize the Member for Aivilik, Mrs. Thompson.
Committee Motion 87-12(7): To Amend Clause 84 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Manitok Thompson Aivilik
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Regarding section 84.(1) (Translation) I don't understand the meaning of these French words. (Translation ends) I don't know what you guys are talking about. I don't know the terms, I might as well put Inuktitut in place of them. What do these mean? I can't even pronounce them, it's getting very frustrating. I don't understand French.
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The Chair Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mrs. Thompson. Mr. Minister, would you explain the words "scolaire," "conseils," and "francophone," toutes ca?
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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta
The conseils, so there's no confusion, are committees. In the case of a board, where there are French parents who have rights to have their children educated in French, there is the ability to set up a council within a district, or within a board. It is basically a subgroup of a board. From the councils where you have two or more, you can combine them to form a commission. The commission is basically the board, a board. They will have the authorities that would normally be extended to boards, such as the Keewatin Divisional Board of Education. They would have those types of authorities with regard to the education of their children. So that's the basis on which they would work.
I must say that the conseil would also have the authority to manage the affairs of their French programming and the facilities in which their children are educated, but that would be dealt with through regulations.
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Committee Motion 87-12(7): To Amend Clause 84 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Manitok Thompson Aivilik
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As I understand it, in the Keewatin we have a Keewatin divisional board, if the French wanted to set up their own divisional board as a subdivisional board besides our divisional board in the Keewatin region, they can come in and establish their own divisional board. Is that what you're saying? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Committee Motion 87-12(7): To Amend Clause 84 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. They could establish a commission or a board, where the numbers warrant. In other words, there is a criteria where numbers have to be considered as part of the basis on which we move from one category of comite to a conseil to a commission. But that's already been determined.
What we are trying to do here is to make it permissive that two or more can get together and form a commission. It can be a territorial organization, or it can be one that's located in a particular community, depending on the numbers and the circumstances. The conseil would have delegated authority on behalf and through the district education authority, but they must clearly have responsibility for managing the programs and the facilities in which they are involved in delivering programs. That is very clear. Thank you.
Committee Motion 87-12(7): To Amend Clause 84 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Committee Motion 87-12(7): To Amend Clause 84 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Committee Motion 87-12(7): To Amend Clause 84 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Committee Motion 87-12(7): To Amend Clause 84 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Committee Motion 87-12(7): To Amend Clause 84 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Committee Motion 87-12(7): To Amend Clause 84 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Committee Motion 87-12(7): To Amend Clause 84 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Committee Motion 87-12(7): To Amend Clause 84 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair Tony Whitford
Thank you. Clause 88. The chair recognizes the Member for Yellowknife North, Mr. Ballantyne.
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Michael Ballantyne Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think this concern has been brought up in committee and been brought up to the Minister before, but I would like to put it on the public record here in the House. There has been a fair amount of concern expressed right across the territories about the use of the new terms: district education authority, divisional education council. Specifically, the school board of Yellowknife Education District No. 1 would really like to keep that nomenclature of "board of education." I wonder if the Minister could explain why it was necessary to make these changes, and what advice he would have to the board to be able to use "board of education."
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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta
If I could ask Ms. Joyce to answer, please.
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Joyce
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In answer to Mr. Ballantyne's question, legally they would be called district education authorities and divisional education councils, but they could call themselves the board of education if they so choose. As they do now, their name is not exactly the name that is reflected in the current act, so they can continue to do so. The reason we have chosen different names is because the system is so entirely different. Also, we wanted to use one name for a district or a community education authority so that legally Yellowknife, as a community, is a district education authority as is Coral Harbour.