In the Legislative Assembly on June 21st, 1995. See this topic in context.

Committee Motion 81-12(7): To Defer Consideration Of Clause 61 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha

Mr. Chairman, I would like to move that we defer clause 61.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you. There has been a motion to defer this clause. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Committee Motion 81-12(7): To Defer Consideration Of Clause 61 Of Bill 25, Carried
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An Hon. Member

Question.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried.

---Carried

We shall defer clause 61. The chair will now recognize the Member for Aivilik, Mrs. Thompson.

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Manitok Thompson Aivilik

The amount of 60 days is enough time for teachers to be given notice, speaking from experience. That's my comment. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mrs. Thompson. Clause 62. The chair recognizes the Member for Inuvik, Mr. Koe.

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Fred Koe Inuvik

I would like some clarification on section 62.(3). Can someone clarify the intent of this clause for me, and what happens at the end of five years?

Committee Motion 81-12(7): To Defer Consideration Of Clause 61 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Koe. Mr. Minister.

Committee Motion 81-12(7): To Defer Consideration Of Clause 61 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Can I ask Ms. Gail Joyce to respond, please.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Ms. Joyce, please.

Committee Motion 81-12(7): To Defer Consideration Of Clause 61 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Joyce

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Section 62.(3) means that if and when this act comes into force, five years from that date, the individuals will continue to be paid at their rate of classroom assistant that they had been paid.

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Fred Koe Inuvik

Is it the intent of clause 62 to remove the terms "classroom assistants?" Is that the intent of this clause, and are they going to then be called education assistants?

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Koe. Ms. Joyce. Mr. Minister, I'm sorry.

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

That's the correct interpretation, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Koe.

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Fred Koe Inuvik

I just want to make a comment. Classroom assistants, as we know them now, are quite useful participants in the education system. Many of them are ones now involved in the TEP program or who are looking at the TEP program somewhere down the line. My concern is that we're not using this clause to eliminate these types of people from the system. You can call them something else, that's fine, but I just wanted to ensure that we still have the equivalent of classroom assistants. Not everyone who enters the TEP program is going to pass, and they still have a lot of experience and provide a lot of value to the system. So, we should have a provision to employ these people. I'm hoping that's what we're doing here.

Committee Motion 81-12(7): To Defer Consideration Of Clause 61 Of Bill 25, Carried
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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Koe. Mr. Minister.

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We agree. It's just a title change. It is our hope that those who are education assistants will move to become full-time teachers because they know the communities and, in most cases, they are aboriginal people as well. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. The chair now recognizes the Member for Aivilik, Mrs. Thompson.

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Manitok Thompson Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It makes more sense to say education assistants because when you interpret classroom assistants into Inuktitut, it means someone who is assisting the building, not a teacher. It makes more sense this way.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you for those comments, Mrs. Thompson. Clause 62.

Committee Motion 81-12(7): To Defer Consideration Of Clause 61 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you. Clause 63. The chair recognizes Mr. Koe.

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Fred Koe Inuvik

I had a comment on clause 63.(1), but I see it's clarified in 63.(8); that principals are allowed to be hired for more than five years. I picked that up, and just wanted to make that comment.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you for those comments, Mr. Koe. Clause 63. Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. On clause 63.(1), with regard to the length of term for a principal, the term is not to exceed five years. I would like to ask the Minister what the intent of this particular clause is. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. Mr. Minister.

Committee Motion 81-12(7): To Defer Consideration Of Clause 61 Of Bill 25, Carried
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June 21st, 1995

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It's very clear that the intent is to restrict the term of the tenure of a principal. If the district is happy with the terms and the professional support given by the principal, 63.(8) can allow them to make an adjustment to renew their contract. We've not always heard good things, we've heard bad things. In that case, it must be left up to the district education authority to make those determinations. But there are lots of good principals out there, too. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. I'm sure there are. Does that answer your question, Mr. Antoine?

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you. Clause 63.

Committee Motion 81-12(7): To Defer Consideration Of Clause 61 Of Bill 25, Carried
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you. Clause 64. Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Clause 64 is the certification of the eligibility of a principal. This could be issued to a teacher who has the prescribed qualifications, who successfully completes a program for teachers to become principals. I would like to ask the Minister, through you, Mr. Chairman, is there a prescribed program for training teachers to become a principal at the present time? If not, is there going to be a program in place to train teachers to be principals? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. Mr. Minister.

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you. Yes, Mr. Chairman, there now exists a two-session certification program for those who wish to become eligible as principals, and it's an NWT certification program. We do have the regulations. What I'll do is provide a copy of the regulations regarding the certification program to the honourable Member for his information. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Clause 64.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you. Clause 65.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Clause 66.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you. Clause 67.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Tony Whitford

Thank you. Clause 68. Mr. Minister.