Thank you. The motion was originally ruled in order by the chair but it you wish to change, not the principle of the motion but the wording, if the committee agrees. Do you wish to change the wording? Mr. Lewis.
Debates of June 7th, 1995
Topics
Committee Motion 52-12(7): Reinforcement Of Liability Of Liquor Licensees Arising From The Irresponsible Sale/supply Of Liquor, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 1194
The Chair John Ningark
Committee Motion 52-12(7): Reinforcement Of Liability Of Liquor Licensees Arising From The Irresponsible Sale/supply Of Liquor, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 1194
Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre
I made a criticism, but I didn't make a motion, Mr. Chairman. I could make a motion, it that would help matters a little bit.
Committee Motion 52-12(7): Reinforcement Of Liability Of Liquor Licensees Arising From The Irresponsible Sale/supply Of Liquor, Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 1194
The Chair John Ningark
What is your wish? Mr. Lewis.
Committee Motion To Amend Committee Motion 52-12(7), Withdrawn
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 1194
Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre
Mr. Chairman, I move that where the word "recommended" appears it should be made plural by the addition of an "s", and that the word "that" which appears before the word "liability" should be changed to the word "the."
Committee Motion To Amend Committee Motion 52-12(7), Withdrawn
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 1194
The Chair John Ningark
We need a copy of the motion and a translated version. Mr. Kakfwi.
Committee Motion To Amend Committee Motion 52-12(7), Withdrawn
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 1194

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
It's late in the day but...
--- Laughter
Mr. Chairman, the last speaker raised a question of whether or not a motion in the first instance should make sense if it's going to be ruled in order. Since he has argued very catergorically that, in fact, grammatically, it makes little or no sense, I wonder if you would rule on whether the motion was in order in the first instance.
Committee Motion To Amend Committee Motion 52-12(7), Withdrawn
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 1194
The Chair John Ningark
Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi. I ruled the motion was in order, originally. We need a copy of Mr. Lewis's motion, please. Mr. Lewis.
Committee Motion To Amend Committee Motion 52-12(7), Withdrawn
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 1194
Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre
I've done a second reading of the motion, Mr. Chairman, and I found another error which, if we're going to make a motion, should also be corrected.
--- Laughter
And then there would have to be another amendment to change the other mistake, Mr. Chairman.
Committee Motion To Amend Committee Motion 52-12(7), Withdrawn
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 1194
The Chair John Ningark
Mr. Lewis, if you wish to make a motion, you can make a motion and have it written. Mr. Lewis.
Committee Motion To Amend Committee Motion 52-12(7), Withdrawn
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
June 6th, 1995
Page 1194
Brian Lewis Yellowknife Centre
I withdraw my motion, Mr. Chairman. It's late in the day and I think people are going to get restless and annoyed. I'll just withdraw it.
--- Withdrawn
Committee Motion To Amend Committee Motion 52-12(7), Withdrawn
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 1194
The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. To the motion. Mr. Koe, did you have your hand up? Mr. Koe, were you stretching?
Committee Motion To Amend Committee Motion 52-12(7), Withdrawn
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 1194
An Hon. Member
(Microphone turned off)
Committee Motion To Amend Committee Motion 52-12(7), Withdrawn
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 1194
The Chair John Ningark
Scratching, thank you. To the motion. Member for Thebacha.
Committee Motion To Amend Committee Motion 52-12(7), Withdrawn
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 1194
Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
Question.
Committee Motion To Amend Committee Motion 52-12(7), Withdrawn
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 1194
The Chair John Ningark
Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried.
--- Carried
Thank you. Member for Thebacha.
Committee Motion To Amend Committee Motion 52-12(7), Withdrawn
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 1194
Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I've really got to look at this grammar now, Mr. Chairman.
--- Laughter
Committee Motion 53-12(7): Endorsement Of The Principles As Outlined In The Legislative Action Paper On Liquor Laws (td 2-12(7)), Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 1194
Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
Mr. Chairman, I move that this committee endorse the final five principles as outlined in the legislative action paper. Tabled Document 2-12(7):
1. In the Northwest Territories, liquor should be regarded as a "regulated product." The Liquor Act and regulations should define parameters for controlling the sale, distribution, possession and consumption of liquor.
2. New legislation should not be planned in isolation. An effective, responsive liquor control system should be seen as one of the many factors that can contribute to community "wellness." Liquor regulation impacts on health and social policy, on community development and on many other areas. These should be taken into account when new legislative approaches are being considered.
3. Territorial liquor legislation should not necessarily be modeled after similar laws enacted by other Canadian provinces. While it may be instructive to examine approaches taken in other jurisdictions, the new Liquor Act should be tailored to meet the specific northern needs that people have identified. Elements that promise to work well in the NWT should be incorporated, regardless of whether they have been adopted elsewhere in Canada.
4. Liquor control systems, institutions and standards should be "powerful" enough to ensure that the goals of the legislation can be achieved. They have to be regularly evaluated to determine whether they are accomplishing the desired effect. The now legislation should reflect community priorities and empower local measures for liquor control.
5. The new Liquor Act should reflect a parity -- or balance -- between the interests of varying lifestyles. On one hand, it has to be recognized that many northerners enjoy a consistently moderate and responsible pattern of liquor consumption. On the other, it must also be acknowledged that excessive or irresponsible liquor consumption has been linked to many of the social problems that plague NWT communities. New liquor control legislation should be designed in a manner that reflects both these realities.
And Further, this committee encourages the government to base the development of the new Liquor Act on these principles.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Committee Motion 53-12(7): Endorsement Of The Principles As Outlined In The Legislative Action Paper On Liquor Laws (td 2-12(7)), Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 1195
The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. As in the case of the first motion, the Inuktitut version is correct and is in order. To the motion.
Committee Motion 53-12(7): Endorsement Of The Principles As Outlined In The Legislative Action Paper On Liquor Laws (td 2-12(7)), Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 1195
An Hon. Member
Question.
Committee Motion 53-12(7): Endorsement Of The Principles As Outlined In The Legislative Action Paper On Liquor Laws (td 2-12(7)), Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 1195
The Chair John Ningark
Question has been called. All those in favour? I have not ruled yet, so, Member for Thebacha.
Committee Motion 53-12(7): Endorsement Of The Principles As Outlined In The Legislative Action Paper On Liquor Laws (td 2-12(7)), Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 1195
Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
(Microphone turned off)
Committee Motion 53-12(7): Endorsement Of The Principles As Outlined In The Legislative Action Paper On Liquor Laws (td 2-12(7)), Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 1195
The Chair John Ningark
The motion is in order.
Committee Motion 53-12(7): Endorsement Of The Principles As Outlined In The Legislative Action Paper On Liquor Laws (td 2-12(7)), Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 1195
An Hon. Member
Question.
Committee Motion 53-12(7): Endorsement Of The Principles As Outlined In The Legislative Action Paper On Liquor Laws (td 2-12(7)), Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 1195
The Chair John Ningark
Question. All those in favour of the motion, signify. All those opposed? The motion is carried.
--- Carried
Member for Thebacha, if you have further recommendations. Member for Thebacha.
Committee Motion 53-12(7): Endorsement Of The Principles As Outlined In The Legislative Action Paper On Liquor Laws (td 2-12(7)), Carried
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 1195
Jeannie Marie-Jewell Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that this committee recommend that the government draft the new Liquor Act in a way that reinforces that liability of liquor licenses ... I did that one.
--- Laughter