In the Legislative Assembly on June 8th, 1995. See this topic in context.

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Fred Koe Inuvik

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Minister of Safety and Public Services. In the May 19, 1995 payroll envelopes, government employees received a consumer alert release from consumer and corporate affairs, a section of Safety and Public Services. This gist of this consumer alert is that, "Section 206 of the Criminal Code of Canada prohibits gambling activity in Canada, subject to what provinces and territories are allowed to do under section 207." The last part of the consumer alert document says, "The commercial crime section, RCMP, reminds you that illegal gambling is a felony offence." I would like to ask the Minister of Safety and Public Services, did he, his office or someone in the RCMP approve this consumer alert document for distribution?

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Minister of Safety and Public Services, Mr. Nerysoo.

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you. Just so it is quite clear, Mr. Speaker, I did not approve that insert. In fact, to be very clear, the deputy minister did not approve the insert. It was done, unfortunately, prematurely and without consent. We have since written a letter to all our directors, advising them that any inserts to be included in payroll envelopes must first receive the approval of the deputy minister. It was, in our view, a piece of information which was not required that caused, I think, a bit more concern and problems than it needed to.

Despite the fact that some of the information may have been correct, in our view, it was not something we needed to pay a lot of attention to. Rather, I think we want to advise the public of more serious issues.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Koe.

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Fred Koe Inuvik

Mahsi. I would like to ask the Minister, then, who did authorize the distribution of this document because some of the information in it, as you mentioned, is true but some is not true. I would like to get clarification.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Nerysoo.

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, I don't want to get into the matter of identifying who was involved. I just want to accept part of the responsibility that it happened. The issue has now been dealt with. We have advised our staff that this kind of information should not be forwarded without the approval of the deputy minister in the future. All of our directors have been advised of that. It was an unfortunate piece of information.

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Tony Whitford

Tony Whitford Yellowknife South

I think it was a good idea.

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Well, the honourable Member here probably thinks it is a good idea, but we're not certain that the information is absolutely correct. We were mentioned and the RCMP was mentioned in the information. There are legal questions we're now asking the Department of Justice to review and I'm not, at this particular time, prepared to discuss who should be held accountable. I probably should be and, therefore, I am answering the question. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Koe.

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Fred Koe Inuvik

I'd like to thank the Minister for that information. I'm not saying it's a bad idea or a good idea, I think it's appropriate if the information is factual. The public should be aware of the laws in our Criminal Code. I find this particular document interesting because it states that illegal gambling is a felony offence. To my knowledge, "felony offences" is a term used in the United States of America. In Canada, we have indictable offences and summary offences. I wonder if the Minister is considering changing our Criminal Code Act to allow felony offences in Canada?

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Nerysoo.

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If you support me if I seek election as a Member of Parliament, I might be able to do it.

---Laughter

I just want to advise the honourable Member again that part of the information...I think the honourable Member has pointed out one of the problems, which is we're putting in information that might not be correct and reflective of legislation in this country. Therefore, I find it difficult to say that all the information is accurate. More importantly, Mr. Speaker, we have advised our staff that this type of information should not be provided to the general public unless it receives the support of the deputy minister and has undergone the appropriate legal analysis. The honourable Member has pointed out just one clause. I accept the comments that have been made by the honourable Member and the concerns raised.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Final supplementary, Mr. Koe.

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Fred Koe Inuvik

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. So will the Minister be making corrective adjustments to this document or to the information in the next payroll package that goes out?

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Nerysoo.

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Richard Nerysoo Mackenzie Delta

Well, put it this way, I really believe there is other, more important information that should be provided to the staff. Again, I don't want to take up a whole lot of time trying to discourage friends and staff from doing things that are illegal. I don't want them to be recommending that, but, at the same time, I'm not really interested in encouraging our staff to go around, nor would I encourage the RCMP to go around and monitor whether we have hockey pools, for instance. I think that would be inappropriate. I think there are other, more serious criminal matters that the RCMP should be involved in. Many of those issues have been raised in this Assembly: drugs; youth crime; and, other criminal activity.

I find that information is important, but it should also be taken in the context of the seriousness of the issue. But I will review the matter and ensure that information is appropriately and correctly provided. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Ms. Mike.