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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Ms. MacPherson do you want to explain the details of what the Honourable Member is asking.

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Macpherson

Thank you Mr. Chairman, like Mr. Aitken I do not remember the name of the case, but what is clear is that as Mr. Erasmus has pointed out, variations in the size of electoral districts is clearly permitted under the Canadian charter, not withstanding the concept of one person, one vote, that the courts have recognized that in certain instances more particularly in northern and rural ridings that a discrepancy in the size of the riding may be required to compensate for the large geographic area of the riding that the member has to serve.

It is very different being a member for four or five communities than it is being a member for one community, and it places different strains on members. The courts have recognized that there are circumstances where it is appropriate to deviate from the concept of one person, one vote that is protected under the charter. I hope that addresses some of the concerns raised by the member.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 11. Before I recognize our next speaker, I would like to recognize parents and families from Yellowknife. Welcome.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 11. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In regards to the boundaries and taking into account certain conditions, have you looked at the possibility of considered settlement regions in regards to their description of their settlement areas, as a possibility of looking at using those boundary lines as geographical lines for electoral districts? Has that been taken into consideration?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, that can be taken into consideration by the Electoral Boundaries Commissions under 11(b), there, the diversity of interests of inhabitants of any part of the territory, could give consideration to that factor, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, clause 11, Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Because I would like to maybe just to make the wording a little more clear, clearly stipulate that settlement regions, as defined in land claim agreements, which they are legally defined, they are surveyed boundaries which they are defined in land claim agreements, so, they are legally registered as it states to date, so, if they could maybe, make an additional to that to add that in there, to clearly state that. Thank

you, Mr. Minister.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, certainly that could be given consideration, actually we could go one step further. When the guidelines are given to the commission by this Legislative Assembly, they could specify at that time to take into consideration land claims settlement areas, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Sorry, Mr. Chairman, I was going to add, under section 11(e) of this act, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 11. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Could the Minister ensure me that you will make every effort to make sure that is there when it comes forward to this House for our acceptance. If they could attempt to get it in there prior to coming to this House for approval.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Minister.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the guidelines and criteria have to be approved and developed by this House, at that time all members will have input into development of those criteria for the Boundaries Commission, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 11, bill 19. We have Mr. Miltenberger and Mr. Evaloarjuk. Mr. Miltenberger, on clause 11, Mr. Evaloarjuk.

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Mark Evaloarjuk Amittuq

(Translation.) Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to talk on 11. I have a question. While we are dealing with electoral boundaries what are we discussing, it does not really state how many members there will be in the government of Nunavut but perhaps, there are twenty-seven communities in the Nunavut area, so, some of the members will, if there are twenty members in that Legislation, perhaps they will have to take on more responsibility, some of the members and will have to consider these issues later on.

In looking at some communities there are people that are related to one another from different communities who are, for instance, Hall Beach and Igloolik, Repulse Bay and also, Sanikiluaq. It is a community that is out of the way and I just wanted to clarify how many members there would be in the legislation. Thank you, Mr. Evaloarjuk. Your question has to do with D on 11, Mr. Minister.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Mr. Chairman, this Act is just to allow for the establishment of the Electoral Boundaries Commissions. Later on, when the terms of reference and the guidelines and criteria are given to the Electoral Boundaries Commission based on direction from this Legislative Assembly, at that time there will be a range of seats, or it could be a specific number of seats that they are asked to make recommendations on for both the Western Territory and the Nunavut Territory, depending on how Constitutional talks work out in the West, and depending on how the Nunavut Implementation Commission recommendations are considered for the Nunavut area, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.

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Manitok Thompson Aivilik

Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Clause 11, agreed? Thank you. Clause 12 of Bill 19.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Part 2, Nunavut Electoral Boundaries Commission, Clause 13.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 14.