The Minister of Health and Social Services, Mr. Ng.
Debates of Oct. 7th, 1996
Topics
Question 405-13(3): Plans To Expand The Kitikmeot Boarding Home
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Return To Question 405-13(3): Plans To Expand The Kitikmeot Boarding Home
Question 405-13(3): Plans To Expand The Kitikmeot Boarding Home
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we have not had any requests from the Kitikmeot Health Board at this stage to look at expanding the facilities, so I can say no, at this time, I am unaware of any plans to facilitate any expansion, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
Supplementary To Question 405-13(3): Plans To Expand The Kitikmeot Boarding Home
Question 405-13(3): Plans To Expand The Kitikmeot Boarding Home
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Supplementary, Mr. Ningark.
Supplementary To Question 405-13(3): Plans To Expand The Kitikmeot Boarding Home
Question 405-13(3): Plans To Expand The Kitikmeot Boarding Home
Item 6: Oral Questions
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John Ningark Natilikmiot
Thank you Mr. Speaker. Given the statistics that I provided to the Minister, will the Honourable Minister seriously look at the possibility of expanding the Kitikmeot Boarding Home? Thank you.
Supplementary To Question 405-13(3): Plans To Expand The Kitikmeot Boarding Home
Question 405-13(3): Plans To Expand The Kitikmeot Boarding Home
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Ng.
Further Return To Question 405-13(3): Plans To Expand The Kitikmeot Boarding Home
Question 405-13(3): Plans To Expand The Kitikmeot Boarding Home
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I recognize it is a heavily utilized facility; however, I would have to wait and see exactly what kind of statistics are confirmed and whether or not the people of Kitikmeot, through their health board, request any expansion. But, at the same time, Mr. Speaker, I would like to advise the Honourable Member that we are in limited financial means and it would have to be fully justified as a long- term cost effective way of dealing with our health issues before we finalize any plans to expand these facilities. Mr. Speaker, thank you.
Further Return To Question 405-13(3): Plans To Expand The Kitikmeot Boarding Home
Question 405-13(3): Plans To Expand The Kitikmeot Boarding Home
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Ningark.
Supplementary To Question 405-13(3): Plans To Expand The Kitikmeot Boarding Home
Question 405-13(3): Plans To Expand The Kitikmeot Boarding Home
Item 6: Oral Questions
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John Ningark Natilikmiot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Supplementary to the same Honourable Minister. The statistic I provided to the Honourable Minister is we have about 85 per cent average usage of the government boarding home. We have about 20 per cent non-Kitikmeot patients staying at the Kitikmeot Boarding Home. Over and above that, some patients from Kitikmeot are referred to the Rainbow Valley Boarding Home. I thank the Rainbow Valley Boarding Home for providing the services. Mr. Speaker, will the Honourable Minister now communicate with the Kitikmeot Health Board? Thank you.
Supplementary To Question 405-13(3): Plans To Expand The Kitikmeot Boarding Home
Question 405-13(3): Plans To Expand The Kitikmeot Boarding Home
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Ng.
Further Return To Question 405-13(3): Plans To Expand The Kitikmeot Boarding Home
Question 405-13(3): Plans To Expand The Kitikmeot Boarding Home
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have no hesitancy in contacting the Kitikmeot Health Board to try to discuss with them the options and see if there are any problems and try to work out a solution that would be acceptable to
everybody.
Further Return To Question 405-13(3): Plans To Expand The Kitikmeot Boarding Home
Question 405-13(3): Plans To Expand The Kitikmeot Boarding Home
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Barnabas.
Question 406-13(3): Timeframes For New Regional Hospital
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Levi Barnabas High Arctic
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister of Health a question. I would like to know if the Baffin Regional Hospital will be finished on the date it was supposed to be?
Question 406-13(3): Timeframes For New Regional Hospital
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
The Minister of Health and Social Services, Mr. Ng.
Return To Question 406-13(3): Timeframes For New Regional Hospital
Question 406-13(3): Timeframes For New Regional Hospital
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I cannot give a date on when I would expect the health facility in Iqaluit, or in Inuvik for that matter, to be completed. I mean, it will depend largely upon finalizing the financing agreement with the federal government and secondly, and more importantly, finding the financial means within our government to proceed with these major capital projects, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
Return To Question 406-13(3): Timeframes For New Regional Hospital
Question 406-13(3): Timeframes For New Regional Hospital
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Barnabas.
Supplementary To Question 406-13(3): Timeframes For New Regional Hospital
Question 406-13(3): Timeframes For New Regional Hospital
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Levi Barnabas High Arctic
I would like to ask another question to the Minister of Health. Can the Minister table an agreement that was signed to build the hospital in Inuvik and Baffin Regional Hospital?
Supplementary To Question 406-13(3): Timeframes For New Regional Hospital
Question 406-13(3): Timeframes For New Regional Hospital
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Ng.
Further Return To Question 406-13(3): Timeframes For New Regional Hospital
Question 406-13(3): Timeframes For New Regional Hospital
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would say that I will check to see if we could do that and if that were the case, I would. Otherwise I would be willing to let the Honourable Member see what agreement is in place, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 406-13(3): Timeframes For New Regional Hospital
Question 406-13(3): Timeframes For New Regional Hospital
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Barnabas.
Supplementary To Question 406-13(3): Timeframes For New Regional Hospital
Question 406-13(3): Timeframes For New Regional Hospital
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Levi Barnabas High Arctic
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Picco had stated earlier that $8 million had been set aside for the hospital in the Inuvik and Baffin Region. I would like to have this reviewed. Can you state exactly where this money will be used, particularly to the construction of those hospitals. Thank you.
Supplementary To Question 406-13(3): Timeframes For New Regional Hospital
Question 406-13(3): Timeframes For New Regional Hospital
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Mr. Ng.
Further Return To Question 406-13(3): Timeframes For New Regional Hospital
Question 406-13(3): Timeframes For New Regional Hospital
Item 6: Oral Questions
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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I indicated before, there have been pre-payments from the federal government that have been paid to the Government of the Northwest Territories. The funds have been put into the General Consolidated Revenue Fund of this government and consumed in addressing the program needs of this government. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 406-13(3): Timeframes For New Regional Hospital
Question 406-13(3): Timeframes For New Regional Hospital
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Mr. Krutko.
Question 407-13(3): Core Funding For The Tl'oondih Healing Society
Item 6: Oral Questions
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Right Honourable Minister of Health and Social Services, Mr. Kelvin Ng. As you quoted in your statement earlier, there were negotiations with the Gwich'in where there was $300,000 given. But the motion which was passed in the House in Committee of the Whole clearly states that the Tl'oondih Healing Society negotiate in an effort to provide core funding to the Society on the same level as provided to other institutions. That is what the motion says. The $300,000 that you mentioned is for non-insured health benefits so the program is delivered for status and Inuit people. The $300,000, compared to other institutions such as Delta House which received $634,000 and out of that $500,000 is wages, does not seem too fair when it comes
to $300,000 to implement programs on behalf of status and Inuit people. Another comparison is Northern Addictions and Services which receives over $1 million, salaries alone were $761,000. On top of that, the operation costs, they received funds to deliver programs on the number of people that they have in their institutions. The problem that we have with the Tl'oondih Healing program is that without core funding we cannot compete on the same basis as these other institutions which are privately funded with help of over $1 million a piece. For $300,000 to deliver a program in our facility works out to about $75 a bed night which is costing the Tl'oondih Healing Society almost $280 a night. So we are losing over $120 per bed. If we had core funding we would be able to compete and maintain that. So my question to the Minister is, will the Minister reconsider looking at the issue, considering years-as any other healing program, alcohol program in the Northwest Territories which has funding fully allocated for the whole year which consists of core funding to be treated on the basis as everyone else? I am talking core funding, Mr. Minister.
Question 407-13(3): Core Funding For The Tl'oondih Healing Society
Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Again just to remind the Members, when you are addressing the Ministers you can use the term the Honourable Minister but not the Right Honourable, which is only a title referred to when you address the Prime Minister, or former Prime Ministers for that matter. Mr. Ng, Minister of Health and Social Services.