Mr. Speaker, we have made every attempt to be as fair as we can in identifying the positions for lay-off, early retirement, education leave, et cetera. 1, quite frankly, don't know how to answer my honourable colleague's question. I understand his concern, but this is the same Member who has been consistent in asking me to remove the deficit over a one-year period rather than two. This means that there would be no lay-offs, not less lay-offs, if we took that approach. We have managed to the best of our ability, the lay-offs. I understand the concern of the honourable Member. It's his responsibility to represent his riding. It's my responsibility to bring forward a fair and reasonable approach in this deficit elimination plan we've put in place. The only why I can explain it is to say I believe we've accomplished that. Thank you.