Mr. Chairman, I think in terms of the record of our local housing organizations, it is probably about the same as it is on other community boards. We have an ongoing need for training and monitoring what is happening. Our district people help them. We do have some cases where fiscal management isn't as good as we would like. We have generally a very competent corps of managers for the housing organizations, but as in any small organization, there is that training need.

We are now just going to start another round of discussions with the LHOs to get their perception of what their needs are for training, particularly as we give them more and more responsibility on things like staff housing and partnership agreements and so on. We will have more feedback within a matter of months following that survey.