Thank you. Of course I think it is important to point out affirmative action and non-affirmative action candidates can take courses on interviews. I think that is an important point item and I am told by Mr. Voytilla that the interview, although I can not qualify it, is an important part of the final selection of the candidate. There may be people who are do take courses in being interviewed, I do not honestly know. Certainly, if there are courses out there, I am sure they are available to all people. I think the interview process is important. I could not qualify it, say on a scale of one to ten, Mr. Chairman.

I want to assure my colleague, because I know this is an important issue with him, and it is understandably an important issue. I know he has spoken to the House on a number of occasions. It is the clear commitment of this government through the Premier and the Ministers where the changes we have made where we fundamentally believe that the overall political responsibility where affirmative action changes from the bureaucracy to the political management of the government will bring about a significant change to the way in which we have done affirmative action.

Each Minister will be held accountable in the House for his or her actions and their departments accordingly. I think it would be fair to say that our net result, on a historical basis nobody, whether an affirmative action client or not, is pleased with the result we have had. The system we have had in place was not as conducive to meeting the targets that are being set. Therefore the Premier, with the support of the Cabinet, changed the system. He has made the Ministers accountable, and at the end of the day I fundamentally believe that this will work better. That is not to suggest it is not without its shortcomings. All policies of the government, especially one of this nature, are going to have problems with it. I would hope that my humble colleague would give us the benefit of some time that a year from now he will hold us accountable. I call that challenge up, and I am optimistic and confident that the numbers will change because there is an overall political and moral obligation to do so. Thank you.