I understand where my colleague is coming from and I understand his concern. He has, as others have, a legitimate concern that they have to address. I am not trying to avoid it, I want to answer your first question. Again I am not trying to avoid saying it is not this amount or that amount. What I am making a commitment to is to try to manage our way so that the layoffs are minimal. That is what we are trying to say and I will endeavour to try to figure our what might be a percentage of what we think might happen. On the transfer of positions through boards, agencies, et cetera, it is roughly 92 positions.