This is page numbers 279 - 297 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was financial.

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Question 88-13(5): Nursing Assistants' Program
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister of Health and Social Services, Mr. Ng.

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Kelvin Ng Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, most definitely so. As we know, we are trying to cultivate, develop a northern-based workforce particularly in the nurse area. So, yes, I will check into that to make sure there are no problems in there. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Roland.

Question 89-13(5): Treatment Of Continuous Employees
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question at this time will be directed to the Minister responsible for Finance. Mr. Speaker, I have, on a number of occasions in the past, made contact with Mr. Todd, the Minister of Finance, regarding concerns raised to me from employees who were considered to be continuous. This impacts those especially who have to take the time off or have to work during the Donny Days. Now, the concern, Mr. Speaker, is that a continuous employee versus a non-continuous employee is that although the reduction that was given out to all employees equals 6.25 percent, continuous employees are impacted in a different way because the formula for reduction is different, and it affects them in their superannuation and overtime pay. So two people doing the identical job if one was considered as a continuous employee his superannuation and the rate of overtime pay would be less than that of someone who was non-continuous.

I have raised this issue on a number of occasions with Mr. Todd. I would like to know if he has or if there has been work done or if they have recognized this and made the necessary corrections to truly treat employees in a fair and equitable way. I would like to see if he has the ability to stick handle this issue. Thank you.

Question 89-13(5): Treatment Of Continuous Employees
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister of Finance, Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Mr. Speaker, I would like to shoot the puck but I cannot this morning. So, what I would say to my honourable colleague is that this is recognized, clearly recognized. We are at the bargaining table as we speak, I think, yesterday. It is on the table, I believe, and I am optimistic that we will come to a satisfactory arrangement with

the UNW to accommodate those workers who Mr. Roland so eloquently and frequently speaks about. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Roland.

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Question 89-13(5): Treatment Of Continuous Employees
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question to the Minister of Finance, Mr. Todd, if he could maybe send a more positive message out to those people who have been impacted negatively by this. It has been two years now that they have endured this inequity. I would like to know if he is prepared to send a message to them that that is indeed being looked at as well. Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 89-13(5): Treatment Of Continuous Employees
Question 89-13(5): Treatment Of Continuous Employees
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

I would like to be able to say unequivocally today that we are going to resolve the problem, but I cannot circumvent the current discussions that are underway between the negotiators for ourselves and the UNW. I am sort of hoping that we can come to an agreement on all issues with respect to the collective agreement by the end of March. That we will be able to as much as possible satisfy those workers who Mr. Roland frequently talks about. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Mr. Henry.

Question 90-13(5): Pay Equity Resolution
Item 6: Oral Questions

January 22nd, 1998

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There were not only bankers listening to the budget address yesterday. I had some calls after the Minister's comments, in particular, about the pay equity issue. I think that it is fair to say the Minister has, on a number occasions, said that he was presently in negotiations and hoped to have those negotiations completed with the UNW prior to the end of March. I think it is fair to say, too, that all Members of this House wish that this item would be resolved. I would not be the only one who has concerns as to how the final settlement will look. My question to the Minister responsible for FMBS is, most governments and chambers of commerce continually say that money in the hands of residents is usually better spent and better for the economy than government expenditure. Is there a chance that we could turn this, which sometimes has been thought of as a negative issue, to a positive issue in the fact that this money that will come from the resolution of the pay equity issue will be in the hands of residents of the Northwest Territories and better enhance some of the initiatives that the Minister is proposing for residents of the territories? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 90-13(5): Pay Equity Resolution
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The Minister of the Financial Management Board, Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Two things, I have to say first of all. First of all, as the Minister of Finance, I was the one who said bring the parties to the table to try to reach what I call a negotiated settlement.

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An Hon. Member

Hear! Hear!

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John Todd Keewatin Central

I do not think that other people should be making those kinds of decisions for us. I have also said clearly on numerous occasions it has to be affordable. I am not prepared to recommend to this House and my Cabinet colleagues that we layoff any more staff or we cut any more programs. So affordability is the issue. Yes, if we come to a reasonable settlement that is affordable, it will be new dollars in the hands of northerners, but it will also be a substantial amount of money in the hands of former government employees who no longer live in the Northwest Territories.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, I was recently happy with the comments that the Minister made. I am a little bit concerned just on his last comment. I would like to have some clarification. The Minister alluded to a large percentage, and maybe he can clarify that, of this money not going to residents of the Northwest Territories. Could he maybe, if his department officials have some numbers, say what percentage of this money will be in the Northwest Territories as opposed to outside of it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Well, we are doing a number of research right now to determine what we think that will be. I can say that a substantial portion of the retroactive payments could end up with employees who are no longer GNWT employees and are no longer in the north, and that the current NWT residents will be paying the bill. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would appreciate if the Minister might have or his officials must have a better breakdown, and I would like if the Minister would make those numbers available to the people of the territories so we can better understand a lot more about this issue. I have very definite concerns if we have asked the residents of the Northwest Territories to take hits for the last two years as Mr. Roland talked about this morning about the stick handling to be done. I would certainly wonder how the Finance Minister of the government can stick handle around that when we have asked the residents of the territories for the last two years to

endure these cuts, to potentially ask them again to take more cuts. So, will the Minister commit to providing those percentages of monies that would be made available to the residents of the Northwest Territories and the percentage that would be going outside of the territories? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 90-13(5): Pay Equity Resolution
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Well, as I said, Mr. Speaker, I do not conclude the negotiations. I understand where my colleague is going with this questioning and frankly I agree with him, but I cannot determine what the dollar value will be if that is under negotiation. What I can determine and what we are trying to determine, on the retroactively side, is how many people are no longer territorial residents and are living in the south. I will have to check with my deputy minister to see if that is not privileged information. If it is not, I would be prepared to provide that to the public and to my colleagues here in the House because I think it has serious consequences if we cannot come to, and I stress if, and I am confident that we can come to a negotiated affordable settlement.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Mr. Ootes.