A different subject, Mr. Chairman. We have had - and the Minister has spoken on it frequently and it is of great concern to him as well as others - our population growth of 4.7 percent which is the largest, I believe, in Canada, and perhaps in North America. I note the social envelope will consume 63 percent of our O and M of the total budget. We have cut the capital. We have cut the number of people we employ. In all likelihood the level of service starts to deteriorate as a result as well. There is no doubt, that in the social envelope, the pressure because of forced growth will continue to be there. It is a frustrating problem for all of us.

I am wondering if the Minister is in a position to perhaps address this with the federal Minister of Finance through the formula financing agreement. After all, is not that where this kind of problem should be taken? If we keep going, soon we will find ourselves in a position with less and less dollars and more and more going into the social envelope area and less into other areas. We are already discussing heavily the whole problem of having to create programs like the P3 program, which as I say I think is a good program. I just have other concerns with it. I just wonder if the Minister could comment a bit for us about his views and outlook to addressing this whole issue and can it be done through the formula financing system? Thank you.