One of the labour-sponsored funds we are looking at right now, actually, is with Alternatives North. In particular, Mr. Ben McDonald has come forward with the idea of a community-sponsored debenture capital fund where corporations and banks would fund on the front end, if you want, some equity for a fund. That equity would generate interest, and that interest would then be reallocated to community-based, if you want, social programs. That is one small example of the fund we are looking at right now.

There would be, if you want, a corporate commitment within some of the large corporations and some of the banking institutions. I am advised, actually, on the employee labour sponsor debenture capital funds that, in fact, in southern Canada, there is a great deal of money in those funds right now, and they are not being utilized to the fullest extent as they should be and that even though we are looking at it, and we say there is a menu of investment vehicles, we will have to look at the additional funds that we think will bring us, if you want, the best bang for our buck. Would that be an appropriate way to describe it? No? Okay. The best return on investment, then, Madam Chair. We are looking at that right now. I would have actually liked to have been able to move on more quickly on some of these other funds that my colleague and his colleagues have advised me on. Unfortunately, it did not quite happen. As we move down the road of getting more information on some of these funds, I will be able to advise the committee, and in particular the Chairman of the Standing Committee on Government Operations, as to what options we are looking at and seek their direction and counsel as to which ones we should move forward on in this last 12 to 14 months of this Assembly. Thank you.