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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

BIP is a territorial-wide policy, Mr. Chairman, that affects all government spending. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Total expenditures, $20 million. Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

In the case of negotiated contracts or sole-sourced contracts, is the BIP applied on top of the contract price?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

The policy of sole-sourced contracts, negotiated contracts, is that the contracts must be 100 percent northern. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Total expenditures, $20,651,000. Do we agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Page 2-27, labour relations and compensation services, operations and maintenance, total operations and maintenance, $6,187,000. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In regard to the whole area of labour relationships and the whole question about employees and affirmative action and whatnot, I have raised several issues where I have been approached by individuals who feel they have been unfairly dealt with in regard to job positions in this government. I would like to know from the Minister as to what has been done to ensure the number of complaints are dealt with fairly?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. I have Mr. Krutko and Mr. Picco. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. We do have a staffing appeal process which has an independent chairperson and that process seems to, I am advised, work relatively well. I think the fact we have an independent chairperson makes it work that way and we are relatively content with the process in place right now. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Can the Minister tell us exactly what the statistics are in regard to the number of complaints and the number of complaints which have been concluded in regard to those instances of people which have filed grievances? Is there a large amount? Have all of them been concluded? Is there a list of individuals who are still

outstanding and, if so, does he have some figures on exactly the number of grievances and the number that have been concluded?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

I do not have an up-to-date list of grievances, et cetera, and ones that are concluded. I can provide that to my honourable colleague. But I will say, we do publish on an annual basis how many appeals, et cetera, in the Public Service Annual Report, which provides everybody with the opportunity to see what is the consolidated position on appeals on an annual basis. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Labour relations. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In regard to the area of employees and such, it seems like there are cases where you hear of the jobs that are advertised which are sort of catered to some specific individuals in the qualifications, especially for long-term northerners with regard to degrees. Yet, they might not have the degrees, but they have the experience of working in that particular area, but may be lacking a PhD or some degree where basically they do not have the long education commitment to go to university and get a PhD, but yet, they have the qualifications of having done the job before and working in that particular field. Then, they are disqualified based on the criteria that they do not have the proper degrees to fill that particular portion of the contract that has been posted. Is there anything in regard to that particular item, where a job description is catered in such a way that it meets certain individuals who may not qualify from the north, where basically that job will have to be filled by people in the south to meet the - I wonder if I have the attention of the Minister at this time? Could he answer that please?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Mr. Chairman, we have just gone through a complete job evaluation of all the jobs, I think, in the government which we have to do anyway for pay equity and a variety of other reasons. In that, we have tried to reflect, if you want, northern needs and northern requirements. We have, as I say, concurred with the affirmative action report that was brought down. The minority report was brought down by my honourable colleagues, Mr. Erasmus, Mr. Miltenberger and, I believe, Mr. Henry. We have put the responsibility and the onus on the Ministers and the deputy ministers to ensure more northerners, and in particular, affirmative action northerners, are recruited into the civil service. I spoke earlier yesterday or the day before with respect we will be tabling in the House the success, if you want, or the status of each department, department by department, on northern and affirmative action hiring. I am fairly confident some of these steps that we put in place will bring about even more northerners than we currently have within our civil service, et cetera. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In regard to the numbers of affirmative action candidates, in regard to PY positions, it seems like there is a small percentage of aboriginal people at the senior management level. What has the department done to try to encourage or entice aboriginal people to move into the senior management level? Does he have any statistics to show if there has been an increase or not in that particular area?

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The Chair John Ningark

Mahsi cho. Mr. Minister.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

All I can do is talk for this government. I know that the Premier in his instructions to the Cabinet Ministers has made it clear, he expects greater progress and if you want, greater participation by both northerners and affirmative action northerners in the civil service. We have hired a manager of development coordination to assist in moving more and more people into the civil service. Mr. Voytilla and his crew have worked hard at career development and we are trying to move more and more people into senior management positions. I think, while it may appear sometimes that progress is slow, we are certainly moving in the right direction. The tone has been set by the Premier and the Cabinet as to what is now expected of politicians who have responsibility for their departments, of the senior managers and the deputy ministers. The fact that we are going to make this a public process by tabling the status of each department, I think, will give my honourable colleague some assurance that there will be a way in which to monitor not only the performance of the Ministers and performance of the government, but also the civil service itself. So, as I said, we certainly have a long way to go, but I think we are on the right track. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Labour relations. Mr. Krutko.