Thank you. We were referring to dollar figures yesterday on the same issue. Mr. Ootes.
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The Chair John Ningark
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Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre
The total building space is 41,474. Do we pay $16.44 plus $10.33 on that total?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Lovely.
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Lovely
That is correct, Mr. Chairman.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Ootes.
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Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I understand there is an apartment in that building that has been converted to office space. Is that outside of this 41,474?
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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Lovely.
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Lovely
Outside of this space, yes. We do not pay for renting that space. Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Ootes.
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Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre
When division comes, no doubt you had figures with respect to the amount of reduction that is required for education and transportation. Could you tell me how much of a reduction will take place over the next two to three years in both of those departments in regard to space requirements?
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Lovely.
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Lovely
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This attachment you see before you comes from the options paper that was developed in July, 1997. At that time we calculated the program and office space that was required based on the forecasts we received from departments for their office space requirements up to and including division. We went back to departments, as you probably noted in the Minister's opening comments, and confirmed whether or not these figures were accurate after we received approval in principle from Cabinet. The figures you see here for the Lahm Ridge Tower reflect any reductions that are planned for those two departments up to division. I cannot give you the exact figure. I could get it for you and tell you how we based our calculations, but I do not have it with me. Thank you.
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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Ootes.
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Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If this is the total space requirement up to division, then after division presumably, we
do not need this amount of space. Is that correct?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Lovely.
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Lovely
Mr. Chairman, what this spread sheet shows is there are 41,474 square feet in the office building. We currently rent that amount of space. It shows that we will have a surplus of space in that building of 7,413 square feet by division and just after division. At this point, we cannot say that we will not require it because we have not been told yet by the government of Nunavut how much they will require from us in terms of contracting services back. I do not have the categorical answers. Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Ootes.
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Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. You cannot be categorical, but it is a fair assumption on my part, I think, and correct me if you want, that after division we will not need all this space, and yet we have signed for an eight-year lease on all of this space? Am I correct on that?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Lovely.
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Lovely
That is correct, Mr. Chairman. I would not want to be in a position where, on April 1, 1999, I had to remove staff from the building because the government of Nunavut might want us to contract back curriculum development services. In all of the buildings that you see, you will note that we have not tried to eliminate all the space because we are not sure of the future. Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Ootes.
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Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre
Thank you. This shows a surplus space that we are paying for of 7,213 square feet. There is potential, if we take 30,000 and let us give Nunavut 8,000 square feet. We have a potential 15,000 square feet that are surplus to our needs. I am being very conservative, Mr. Chairman. Am I correct in that?
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Lovely.
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Lovely
Mr. Chairman, may I ask the Member to repeat that? I did not quite catch the end. Thank you.
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The Chair John Ningark
Thank you. Mr. Ootes, would you repeat your question to the deputy minister?