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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. To the directorate, Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I understand there is another supplementary appropriation forthcoming. Will there be more money in that supplementary directed toward Justice?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, before I let Ms. Schofield give some information in the area of supplementary appropriations, I would just indicate that there are some areas that we are reviewing in the area of corrections, staffing and others where we do know there are deficiencies. What we do not know is what exactly is needed and what we can convince others that the department should have. But in terms of future supplementary appropriations that the department would require, Ms. Schofield could answer.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Ms. Schofield.

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Schofield

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Along with the $983 thousand that was received in 1997-98 supplementary appropriation number three, the department will also go ahead with $1.6 million for corrections in supplementary appropriation number one for 1998-99. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Directorate, total operations and maintenance, $3.8 million. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In view of the Minister's statement that there are no reductions proposed, does that mean that this includes the $2.6 million extra that is being received through the supplementary appropriations?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Arlooktoo.

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The statement that there are no reductions proposed refers only to the budget to the main estimates themselves. The $983,000 and the $1.6 million that were referred to is over and above the main estimates.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It seems to me that if you need an extra $2.5 million this year to do your operation that there is going to be another $2.5 million needed this coming year. Is that money reflected in the rebasing and the money that was used, which is basically an extra $2.6 million, is that reflected in these main estimates that we are looking at today?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. I am advised that we are talking two fiscal years. Mr. Minister.

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As I said earlier, the $1.6 million and the $983,000, are over and above the main estimates. They are, in fact, rebasing exercises and will be ongoing additions to the main estimates.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Directorate. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Those will be ongoing costs, but can we then assume that those costs are already added into these main estimates and that there is not going to be another supplementary for $2.5 million this year?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The main estimates that we have in front of us refer to what we are proposing to use in the coming year, but on top of that the Department of Justice, through consultations with Cabinet and FMB, has arranged to have this extra amount rebased to the base. What will happen from here on in the next main estimates is this amount will automatically be in future budgets.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Mr. Chairman, I am having a difficult time understanding this. Is the Minister saying that this $2.6 million is actually for this coming fiscal year's budget and is not reflected in these main estimates we are looking at?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Minister.

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The main estimates document is prepared at a certain period of time of the year. The $983,000 that was approved in supplementary number three and the $1.6 million that we expect will be in the next appropriation were put in way after this documented was printed and bound. That is the way I would put it.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Erasmus, final.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Mr. Chairman, I am trying to ascertain whether that money we are talking about in those supplementaries, was that used in the previous fiscal year or is that for the coming fiscal year that we are looking at here today, the 1998-99 estimates?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. I will allow the Minister to respond and then we will take a break. Mr. Minister.