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Question 512-13(5): Position On Changes To The Young Offenders Act
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question today is to the Minister of Justice, Mr. Arlooktoo. Mr. Speaker, there have been rumblings and hearings, at the national level, about changes being sought to the Young Offenders Act and the need to tighten the current legislation regarding these individuals. Mr. Speaker, we have had also a great deal of feedback from constituents who are fed up with what they perceive as a lack of substance to the laws governing young offenders. I know, in my constituency, it is not unique. I have also heard Mr. Krutko talk about concerns he has had on the same topic in this House. I would like to ask the Minister of Justice, what is the GNWT's current position in supporting changes to the Young Offenders Act? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 512-13(5): Position On Changes To The Young Offenders Act
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Minister of Justice, Mr. Arlooktoo.

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. At this point in time, the department is putting together an information package for all MLAs summarizing what the federal announcement was. We, in general, support the federal government's attempts to improve the Young Offenders Act. There were a couple of specific areas that they were trying to work on including the area of being more direct or perhaps harsher on some young offenders who may be committing very serious crimes but, in the public eye, not receiving the proper punishment. The other is a move toward restorative justice toward corrections, et cetera. The thrust of the Department of Justice in the NWT is in the area of restorative justice and community justice. It is something the department has been working on for some time. In summary, we, in general, support the federal Minister, Anne McLellan, and we are, at this point in time, gathering information, as I said, and we will be sharing it with Members of the Assembly.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Henry.

Supplementary To Question 512-13(5): Position On Changes To The Young Offenders Act
Question 512-13(5): Position On Changes To The Young Offenders Act
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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you, Minister Arlooktoo, for that detail. My supplementary question, Mr. Speaker, is to the Minister. Does the Government of the Northwest Territories have any abilities to enact laws regarding young offenders that could be put in place probably sooner than what the federal government legislation will take? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 512-13(5): Position On Changes To The Young Offenders Act
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Arlooktoo.

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Generally speaking, the laws governing Canada are the responsibility of the federal government. The ones that the territorial or provincial governments can make cannot erode or take away from federal laws, but what we can do, generally speaking, is make rules and laws tighter or more stringent. There are specific areas the Member is referring to. We would be happy to look at that. As another general comment, much of the attention that was put on the federal announcement was on the fairly narrow area of youth crimes that have to do with very serious or shocking cases such as murders, beatings, et cetera, but if you look at the overall youth crime statistics, the vast majority of them are things like break and enters, theft, et cetera. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Minister again, and I will certainly look forward to the package that the Minister has committed to providing to MLAs. Has the Minister given any consideration or has his government given any consideration to having, he referred to harsher penalties and having restorative inclusions proposed to the federal legislation? Will the Minister pursue that further and encourage parents to take more responsibility to a later age for their children? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 512-13(5): Position On Changes To The Young Offenders Act
Question 512-13(5): Position On Changes To The Young Offenders Act
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Arlooktoo.

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I said, we are open to looking at whatever suggestions MLAs may have. The current area that we are very interested in right now is in the area of restorative justice or dealing with root causes on why youth commit crimes and how we can help them when they are released to go back to being productive members of society because one of the big things that we have found is that, in many cases, putting young people in the correction institution has had negative impacts such as the youth going back to their communities angrier than they were or having learned new crimes, et cetera. This is an area that we are very much concentrating, the restorative side. I look forward to suggestions and cooperation among everybody in finding solutions for that.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Krutko.

Question 513-13(5): Housing Corporation Liaison With Clients
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of the Housing Corporation, Mr. Goo Arlooktoo. It is in regard to my Member's statement and the concerns that have been raised by my constituents, especially the ones that have required the access units or HAP units where they feel there is no real followup from his office or the department to formulate some sort of dialogue between the client and the department. I would like to ask the Minister, is there a possibility of having someone within the community as a liaison person to work along with these clients to ensure there is a smooth transaction for the client when he moves into these units and also if there are any problems with those units, there is someone there they can talk to with regard to these problems?

Question 513-13(5): Housing Corporation Liaison With Clients
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Minister responsible for NWT Housing Corporation, Mr. Arlooktoo.

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When a client or an MLA, for example, identifies with us Housing Corporation clients who are having problems, we do take these concerns seriously and on a case-by-case basis deal with these clients individually. We have many examples of clients who have concerns that are brought forward by MLAs to myself. We, in turn, send the Housing Corporation staff to the communities to work with these individuals. This currently is the way we operate in many cases. The other emerging area is in the area related to community empowerment where we pass more of the authority of giving communities and local housing associations the ability to administer our housing programs and, in doing that, training local people to deal with clients and finding solutions. There are possibilities in that area, but in general, we do it on a case-by-case basis. We have identified the fact that there has not been enough done in followups, in some cases, and I appreciate the Member bringing it to me personally. We are trying to deal with that issue. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In regard to the majority of concerns that I have heard, it seems to be in relation to workmanship of the contractor, or whoever constructed these buildings. It seems there are problems in regard to electrical fixtures where the plug-ins are not working, the light switch is not working, they are having problems with their septic tanks, and so on and so forth. Is there a possibility that someone from the department in the Inuvik region can meet with each and every one of these clients who have acquired these units through Access, DAP or, EDAP or whatever program is out there to ensure the concerns are being considered and that the whole question about warranty or whatever work has concluded to bring those units up to standards? These individuals have now moved in but these repairs have not been done to date. Can the Minister assure me that someone will go into each and every one of these units to carry out those inspections?

Supplementary To Question 513-13(5): Housing Corporation Liaison With Clients
Question 513-13(5): Housing Corporation Liaison With Clients
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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Arlooktoo.

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There are a couple of things that I can offer up to the Member. One, the Housing Corporation has taken seriously the Member's concern that he brought forward to us recently, that it appeared, in some cases, there was not enough followup with clients who have just finished building their homes and that has to deal with the warranty period, which requires some assistance in monitoring. We will see a change or an improvement in that area. I do not think it would be the best use of our staff's time to go back to all of the homeowners in the region in the next little while to see if they have problems, but what we can do is notify homeowners who have received homes through our programs of the next time the Housing Corporation staff will go to their particular community on their regular visits and that we are available to talk to them and ensure we listen to these concerns. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe it is the responsibility of this government and also as the delivery agency of housing programs in the north that we do ensure we try to resolve a lot of these problems and issues before they become a bigger problem, I think, because a lot of these programs are new in regard to Access, DAP, the EDAP Programs that we are presently putting in place. We are talking about Housing 2000. We have to ensure they run smoothly and that we do not continue to see these problems create hardship to the residents we represent. I believe a lot of people are finding themselves in the position now that they are having second thoughts of being put in the position where they are financially running into problems because of problems with their furnaces or problems with the electrical conditions that have poor workmanship on those units. The reason I am asking these questions to the Minister is to ensure these do not continue to carry on and that something be done as soon as possible to ensure my constituents that there will be someone there to hear their concerns and deal with these problems that have arisen to date, so that these do not continue to carry on forever. Will the Minister ensure that someone will go to my constituents and meet with the housing clients to look at these concerns and deal with them ASAP?

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Mr. Arlooktoo.

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe there has been Housing Corporation staff in the Member's constituency over the last couple of weeks, but also our regional staff goes to these communities on a regular basis. These trips are announced, and we will make sure that will continue and make ourselves available to anyone who wants to talk with the staff. There are two other things that I would give Members a heads up on and that we are doing as a corporation. One is the production of homeowners' manuals which will be made available to all clients which will discuss or show in easy terms some routine repair requirements and things about maintaining your own home. The other is, recently I directed the corporation to come up with options for us to consider maintenance programs for homeowners. What we are finding is that the first crop of HAP clients has been in their homes for the last 10 or 12 years and some have had little or no preventative maintenance and therefore, will require some assistance or some expertise at least. I hope to be showing or announcing to the House soon what we plan to do in that regard. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Question period is over. You still have one final supplementary. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

If it is free, I will take it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is important that we do look at the guidelines that these programs fall under and that we have to somehow improve the coordination and having some sort of a liaison person in place to ensure that clients feel their concerns are heard. I am not trying to put down the department or anyone within the Inuvik Region, but this was the majority of issues that I had to deal with in regard to my visit with my constituents. A large portion of those concerns was housing related. Somehow, there has to be someone within the community who recognizes the liaison person to work alongside with these clients to ensure they understand the terms and conditions of those agreements that they have signed and also the obligation the contractor has to the clients to ensure workmanship is being concluded. I would like to ask the Minister if he can consider looking at the guidelines in regard to these programs and how the different agreements have been written to ensure that the clients also are protected in regard to the arrangements they have signed off regarding these different programs? Can the Minister consider looking at these different initiatives and getting back to me on that? Thank you.