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Further Return To Question 87-13(6): Impacts Of Collective Agreement On Recruitment
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Evaloarjuk.

Question 88-13(6): Nunavut Government Design
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Mark Evaloarjuk Amittuq

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, hopefully I will be clear enough. I would like to pose my question to the Minister for Division. The deputy ministers in that region, and probably the Minister I am sure, have meetings occasionally concerning languages within our communities. The language policies were approved in Igloolik originally, but later on in the future there were amendments made to those policies. Whether it was by way of the Interim Commissioner I do not know, but the Baffin leaders held a summit in July and a motion was brought forward to return to the original documents under the Languages Policy. At that time it was moved, I believe by people representing Kugluktuk/Coppermine. I wonder if he can elaborate on that? Thank you. (Translation ends)

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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

The Minister for the Division Secretariat, Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I was just conferring with my colleague so that I might answer the question properly for Mr. Evaloarjuk. Any changes to the Footprints in the Snow II model, I think which is what Mr. Evaloarjuk was speaking about, is subject to the approval of three parties, NTI, GNWT and the federal government. We understand that the Interim Commissioner's office, because of a variety of circumstances, is going to put forward some recommendations for some change. At this time we have not seen that and we are hopeful that would be presented to Mr. Arlooktoo and the others at their meeting next week in Ottawa. If, in fact, there are some changes that have been recommended by the Interim Commissioner that we can support, then we would provide to my honourable colleague and to this House an update on that information at that time. At this time, we do not have a definitive response from the Interim Commissioner as to what changes, if any, he wishes to make. Thank you.

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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Krutko.

David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is to the Minister of Public Works. It is in regard to a tender that was let go in my riding, in Aklavik, for a warehouse for the Department of RWED. The contract which was originally called was given to a joint venture company, Tetlit'zheh Construction Ltd. and the Inuvialuit Project Corporation. They won the bid, but apparently the bid was over budget. The company, along with the Department of Public Works, made an attempt to negotiate and look at the possibility of revising the amount of the budget. At that point they were almost there with a $3,500 difference. At that point, the department went back to the Department of RWED and rejected it on the basis of the $3,500.

I would like to ask the Minister regarding the attempt that was made by this company, which was successful in the original bid and made the attempt to sit down with the government and the Department of Public Works, to try working out an acceptable amount by bringing their price down to a level where they felt was reasonable. Three thousand five hundred dollars is not a lot of money, yet we talk about a surplus in this government, we talk about big projects, we talk about doing multi-million dollar studies. I find it very unacceptable that we make an attempt in good faith with a contractor to sit down with them and try to work out the arrangements, yet at the end of the day, they are rejected on the basis of a small amount of money.

Is there any way that these companies can be compensated for the time and effort that they put in when they sit down with this government, especially the Department of Public Works, to try to resolve an issue and at the end of the day they are left out in the cold with no contract in hand and basically their bid does not mean anything on the market because their price is of public knowledge because it was a public process? I would like to ask the Minister, is there a way that these companies can be compensated for efforts that they put forth in good faith trying to resolve issues with this government, at the end of the day being turned down totally and losing out on a contract for $3,500?

The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. The Minister for Public Works and Services, Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I just became aware of this situation very recently, so I have to depend on what the department provides for me with regard to information. What I have been told is that originally there were two tenders that came in for this project. Again, I have to say that this project itself came in after the budget. RWED was able to arrange funds to replace the warehouse, so it did not go through the normal process. On this particular contract, there were two tenders. One was rejected and the other one, the company mentioned, was high. Their costs were over the estimate of the project, so there were a series of attempts to negotiate, but their price was still high and I am told that the Department of Renewable Resources was unable to provide additional funds for this project. Therefore, this joint venture could not reduce their price further, so this whole project was re-tendered on a reduced scale and another firm got the contract through a public tendering process. That is the nature of the public tendering process. Once you get into the public tendering process, there is not much we can do about it. I became aware of this after it was in the public tendering process, so there was not much we could do about it at this point in time. Thank you.

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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in regard to myself getting involved in this process, I was called by the contractors in question. It was at the point where there was $3,500 difference and I made attempts to call different departments where Ministers were not available because they had other commitments. I spoke to the deputy minister of RWED Mr. Joe Handley, and he attempted to come forth with this money to offset the contract. Yet with the whole question about timing, where the contract went out less than ten days later, they reissued the contract without allowing enough time for the contractor and the government to work out an adequate arrangement. For $3,500 I do not feel that this serves justice to the construction association in the north.

Supplementary To Question 89-13(6): Compensation For Unsuccessful Contract Bidders
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Question, please.

Supplementary To Question 89-13(6): Compensation For Unsuccessful Contract Bidders
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Can the Minister tell me, is there a time period which allows a contractor or a company to have an opportunity to sit down and negotiate in good faith without doing it for a short period of time? Is there a time frame in place which allows from the time the contract is issued to the time the contract is cancelled? Is there a time period before the contract lapses?

Supplementary To Question 89-13(6): Compensation For Unsuccessful Contract Bidders
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I do not know that question, therefore, I will take his question as noticed. I will get back to the honourable Member with complete details of what happened here. Thank you.

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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. The question is being taken as notice. Oral questions. Mr. Henry.

Question 90-13(6): Grade Extension Policy
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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is to the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Dent. I am referring to his statement in the House yesterday regarding students' success. In particular, I would like to talk about the grade extension policy. I note that the Minister has advised the House that the number of communities that have the ability to provide secondary education is at 90 percent. The Minister stated that students no longer have to leave the support of their families and communities to pursue secondary education.

Mr. Speaker, a number of students, who I am aware go for post-secondary education from a community such as Yellowknife, have a difficult time when they go to larger centres. They have a difficult time adapting to the numbers of people, the traffic and so forth. I am wondering if the Minister if having this policy of having as many high schools as possible in communities is not creating a bottleneck for students who will achieve high school education? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. The Minister for Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, when this government introduced the grade extension policy, only 45 percent of those young people who were of high school age were attending high school. That meant that 55 percent of our youth had no chance of post-secondary education. Today, Mr. Speaker, we have 85 percent of our youth in high school. We have had more graduates this year than any other year in history. I would argue that the bottleneck has been all along that we could not get students to complete high school. We do have problems with student success at post-secondary institutions, but it is no where near the problems we have had with students in secondary institutions. I would say that we are dealing with the biggest bottleneck by getting young people to attend high school. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Minister has told us about the increase in the number of graduates. Can the Minister give some hope to the number of graduates that he is graduating through the schools in the smaller communities? What do they hope to do in the smaller communities where there is little chance for creating meaningful employment? They will still, as I say, have to leave in many cases, as other Canadians have to do, to find gainful employment. What programs is the Minister promoting within the schools to create employment for the graduates in the smaller communities? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, educated people do not have a problem finding a job in the Northwest Territories. Last year we had over 3,000 people move to the Northwest Territories and I do not believe anyone moved here to retire. The problem is that we do not have enough northern people trained to take the jobs that are available right now in the Northwest Territories. Training students in the communities will increase their self-sufficiency and their self-reliance and their health. Therefore, I think that the best form of economic development is in education. Educated young people will find their own jobs and if that means that they have to move, then they will be prepared to move. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Minister referred to 3,000 jobs being created in the territories and most of these people have moved to the territories. I still go back to the question of the possibility of getting the students from a high school education qualified where post-secondary education is required to be able to take those 3,000 jobs. I still go back to the question of the bottleneck being created there. I compliment the Minister and the department for raising the number of graduates, but unless there is some path available to those students after that to be able to take advantage of post-secondary education, I still think the bottleneck is there. Again, what encouragement is created in the communities to encourage these students to go on to post-secondary education and maybe to make it easier for them to

do that? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 90-13(6): Grade Extension Policy
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The Deputy Speaker John Ningark

Thank you. The honourable Minister, Mr. Dent.