In the Legislative Assembly on March 23rd, 1999. See this topic in context.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. I would like to call the committee to order. Under item 19, consideration in committee of the whole of bills and other matters, we have Bill 7, Miscellaneous Statutes Amendment Act, 1999; Bill 10, Forgiveness of Debts Act, 1998-99; Bill 11, Write-off of Assets Act, 1998-99; Bill 12, Write-off of Debts Act, 1998-99. May I have direction from the committee. What is the wish of the committee? Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That we proceed with Bill 9, followed by Bill 7, Bill 10, Bill 11 and Bill 12, in that order.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. We have Bill 9, Bill 7, Bill 10, Bill 11 and Bill 12, in that order, as recommended by Mr. Ootes. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Do you wish to get on with business or do you wish to take a break? We will deal with Bill 9. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you. Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 5, 1998-99, requests authority for additional appropriations of $35,598,364, made up of $29,223,364 for operations and maintenance expenditures and $6.375 million for capital. Approximately $7.5 million of the new supplementary requirements will be offset by revenues or other recoveries and will not impact the government's operating results for the year. Twenty million dollars was anticipated and provided for in the government's fiscal framework to address the ultimate outcome of the new collective agreement. The net new funding requirements included in this supplementary appropriation amount to $8.1 million.

Improvement in the 1998-99 revenue forecasts and a one-time retroactive adjustment to the grant from Canada in the 1997-98 fiscal year has permitted the government to provide for additional critical needs through supplementary appropriations, which exceeds the anticipated requirements included in the 1998-99 Main Estimates.

With the revenue forecast adjustments on the year-to-date supplementary appropriations we do project an accumulated surplus at the end of the 1998-99 fiscal year of approximately $58 million as compared to an accumulated deficit of $28 million forecast in 1998-99 estimates.

The operations and maintenance supplementary appropriation requirements include the following major items: $20.5 million for implementation for the Job Evaluation System and the recently ratified collective agreement; $1.7 million to address the legal costs of the Conflict Inquiry; $1.6 million for the increase borrowing costs required to meet the government's requirements to the end of the fiscal year; and $1.6 million for the government's share of the replacement cost of the RCMP plane, this amount will be offset by recoveries of prior years' expenditures related to the Policing Agreement. The supplementary capital appropriation requirements include $5 million for the NWT Housing Corporation to address capital requirements associated with the Plan 2000 Program implementation. This will be offset by recovery of an operations and maintenance surplus from the Housing Corporation, $1 million for the Housing Corporation to extend the Minimum Down Payment Assistance Program pilot project. Mr. Chairman, that is all. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Todd. It is my understanding there are no committee review reports, so we will go into general comments. Before I do that, I would like to ask the Minister if he would like to bring in the witnesses? I take that as a yes. Does the committee agree?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Mr. Todd will bring in the witnesses. Proceed, Sergeant-at-Arms. Mr. Todd, for the record, would you please introduce your witness to the committee?

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. To my immediate right is Mr. Lew Voytilla, deputy minister of the Financial Management Board Secretariat.

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The Chair John Ningark

The floor is now open for general comments. Do you wish to go into detail now?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. We are dealing with Bill 9, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 5, 1998-99. We will go to page 5, detail. Legislative Assembly, operations and maintenance, not previously authorized, Office of the Clerk, not previously authorized, $2,126,666. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Chairman, where are we in the bill?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. We are in detail and we are dealing with Bill 9. On page 5 of Bill 9. Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have some questions in regard to the Conflict of Interest Inquiry and the bill for that particular inquiry. I wonder if we could get an indication of or some detail provided to us in regard to the billing from various departments and firms? Does this figure include the amount billed by the amount of time and lawyers' costs and so forth from the territorial government's representation at this?

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The Chair John Ningark

Mr. Todd, do you wish to respond?

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John Todd Keewatin Central

No, it does not.

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The Chair John Ningark

Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

The Management and Services Board through the chair, Mr. Gargan, has provided the House with the detailed breakdown of the costs that were requested in committee the other day. There are no costs indirectly associated with any legal expenditures that we may have had in House. None.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I note in the detail provided here, I am trying to find the amount provided to the law firm that represented Mrs. Groenewegen. I wonder if I could get clarification on the amount of that?

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The Chair John Ningark

I believe that requires some detail. I wonder if the Minister has the breakdown? Mr. Minister.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

I believe that they are all listed there. Mr. Hamilton will know where they are, but they are all listed there somewhere. One hundred twenty-five thousand, two hundred and twenty-four dollars.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

I would also like to ask a question or two on various other areas here. I also note that the firm representing Mr. Mrdjenovich was $137,000 and $65,000 for the firm representing Mr. Bailey. Does this amount for Mrs. Groenewegen represent the total amount that was billed from the firm?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

I understand that is $137,000, $65,000 for Mr. Bailey and $297,000 for others, and $704,000 for others. I can read. My only point was that it certainly is a lot of money when it is all accumulated at the end of the day. Mr. Chairman, I do not know if these are all the invoices. I would have to check with Mr. Gargan and Mr. Hamilton. If you just give me a moment, I will do that.

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The Chair John Ningark

Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

I believe, Mr. Hamilton advised me that is the total amount they submitted.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Office of the Clerk, not previously authorized, $2,126,666. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Office of the Speaker, not previously authorized, $91,100. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Total department, $2,217,766. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Page 6, Bill 9, Executive, operation and maintenance, not previously authorized. Executive Offices, Cabinet Secretariat, not previously authorized, $301,527. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Page 7, Executive, Operations and maintenance, Financial Management Board Secretariat Directorate, special, not previously authorized, $490,265. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Labour Relations and Compensation Services, special warrant, $600,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Government

Accounting, not previously authorized, $785,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Page 7, Bill 8, Executive, operations and maintenance. Aboriginal Affairs, not previously authorized, $70,337. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Total department, special warrants, $600,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Total department, not previously authorized, $1,647,129. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Page 9, Bill 8, Finance, operations and maintenance. Directorate, not previously authorized, $207,461. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Treasury, special warrants, $1,600,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Total department, special warrants, $1,600,000 Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Not previously authorized, total department, $207,461. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Page 10, Municipal and Community Affairs, operations and maintenance. Corporate Affairs, not previously authorized, $556,352. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Municipal and Community Affairs, total department, not previously authorized, $556,352. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Page 11, Public Works and Services, operations and maintenance. Directorate, not previously authorized, $1,424,012. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Asset Management, not previously authorized, negative $125,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Total department, $1,299,012. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Page 12, Health and Social Services, operations and maintenance. Administration, not previously authorized, $6,259,253. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Total department, not previously authorized, $6,259,253. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. On page 13, Justice, operations and maintenance. Directorate, not previously authorized, $1,899,918. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Law Enforcement, special warrants, $1.6 million. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Legal Services Board, special warrants, $560,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Registries and Court Services, not previously authorized, $80,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Registries and Court Services of $80,000 is to provide funding for administration of the Firearms Program. Is this government not presently in court fighting that particular ruling and if we are, why are we paying for a program that we are supposedly fighting? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. I believe Mr. Todd will explain why the amount is here. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The notes indicate to me that the net effect on the government will be nil as this funding will be fully offset by recovery from Canada. Just give me a chance to read the other notes here. We have actually sent this back to the federal government. The full $80,000 will be reimbursed to the Government of the Northwest Territories by the federal government. In fact, as of November 1999, the Firearms Program has been transferred to the federal government and the GNWT now has no role in the program, so we are just recovering the costs. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

The amounts show, but we will get the money back. Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. On this particular program, can the Minister tell us if the employees are seconded from the RCMP? Let me ask that question first.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Employees? I am not aware of any employees being seconded from the RCMP, not in any of the notes that I have.

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The Chair John Ningark

Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

As Mr. Henry indicated earlier, the government's position is to oppose the Firearms Program. We had to do some work on it, we are recovering the dollars. We have transferred it back to the federal government and we no longer have a role in it. Period. Time up. It may be that there were some people gone, I would have to look into it, but I am not aware of it.

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The Chair John Ningark

Second question, Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Perhaps I could explain, Mr. Chairman. Many of the people working in the Firearms Office now are, to my knowledge, either former RCMP or they may still be RCMP who are seconded from the RCMP. While I do not have any concern with that, my point is that in a roundabout way, are we paying from the territorial government the RCMP its full allotment, yet they are seconding people to the Firearms Office?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. I believe this is the right program under Justice. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

I do not know where that relates to this $80,000, but I will look into the matter and report back to the Member.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Chairman. It is correct, it does not relate to the $80,000, but I am just curious what is happening at the Firearms Office. There is a further concern there. In the communities, the program is administered by the RCMP, therefore this territorial government is paying for the administration of that. Are we recovering those monies from the federal government because it does consume the RCMP's time? They have to be concerned about training courses, issuing permits and so forth. That is my point.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you for that clarification. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

I think that would probably be a question better asked in question period to the Minister of Justice. All I am saying is that it does not relate to this $80,000 expenditure and I think that is where I would suggest the Member takes it. I do not have the answer so, as I said, my point I was trying, I was not trying to be a smart alec, I was just saying it has no relationship, I do not think whatsoever, to the $80,000 which we are debating today. My advice to him would be to ask the question to the Minister of Justice tomorrow.

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The Chair John Ningark

I believe Mr. Ootes is indicating that he agrees, so we will try again. Registries and Court Services, $80,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Community Justice and Corrections, not previously authorized. The $80,000 was not previously authorized. Community Justice and Corrections, not previously authorized, $50,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Total department, special warrants, $2.160 million. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Mr. Ootes.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Chairman, I wonder if I could get permission from the Members to go back to Law Enforcement for a moment?

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Ootes is seeking consent from Members to go back to Law Enforcement. Do we agree to allow Mr. Ootes to ask his questions?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Ootes, proceed with the question.

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Jake Ootes

Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am concerned about this particular warrant from the perspective that we have traditionally advised the government that we do not want to get into an overly extensive number of warrants simply because certain items should be budgeted for ahead of time. It looks like the purchase of a new aircraft. While I do not have a problem with that, it is the process of having this special warrant to do it. I wonder why it was processed as a special warrant instead of budgeting for it in the usual process?

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The Chair John Ningark

Perhaps it was unforseen. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

While I concur with my honourable colleague that special warrants, you have to be careful that they are not abused, and I think I have demonstrated over the last four years that has not taken place. This particular expenditure came about because the lease was expiring on the aircraft and it was determined it was more cost-effective to purchase the aircraft rather than continue with the lease. This was at the request of the RCMP and when we did the analysis, we determined that there were significant fiscal savings to that.

For the record, for Mr. Ootes' benefit, we did purchase a new aircraft, but we sold a twin otter and we used those proceeds against the aircraft and the net cost to the government was $1.6 million. There was a leasing agreement that was costing us somewhere in the region of about $26,000 per month. That is the particular reason for the special warrant. I concur with him entirely, special warrants should be done as a last resort and, in this particular case, it was because the lease was expiring and it had to be done. It was determined that in the long run, this would in fact, save us money. Thank you.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. I believe Mr. Ootes was answered by Mr. Todd so we will move on. Total department, special warrants, $2.160 million. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Total department, not previously authorized, $2,029,918. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Page 14, NWT Housing Corporation, operations and maintenance. NWT Housing Corporation, not previously authorized, $601,655. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Total department, not previously authorized, $601,655. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Page 15, Education, Culture and Employment, operations and maintenance. Directorate and Administration, not previously authorized is $4,009,520. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Total department, not previously authorized, $4.920 million. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Page 16, Transportation, operations and maintenance. Corporate Services, not previously authorized, $1,190,326. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Airports, not previously authorized, $428,502. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Total department, not previously authorized, $1,618,828. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. The next page, Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, operations and maintenance. Corporate Management, not previously authorized, $3,466,470. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, not previously authorized, $950,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Total department, not previously authorized, $4,416,470. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Page 18, Bill 9, Public Works and Services, Capital. Assets Management, not previously authorized, $125,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Total department, not previously authorized, $125,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Page 19, Bill 9, Northwest Territories Housing Corporation, capital, not previously authorized, $6 million. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Total department, $6 million. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Page 20, Transportation, capital. Airports, not previously authorized, $250,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Total department, $250,000. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Now moving back to clause by clause of Bill 9, Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 5, 1998-99. Clause 1. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 2. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 3. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 4. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 5. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 6. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 7. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Schedule E, page 4, Bill 9, part 1, vote 1, operations and maintenance. Total operations and maintenance, $29,223,364. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Page 6, part 2, vote 2, capital. Total capital, $6.375 million. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Total supplementary, appropriation in parts 1 and 2, $35,598,364. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Preamble. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Bill as a whole. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Does the committee agree that Bill 9 is ready for third reading? Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Bill 9 is ready for third reading. I would like to thank, on behalf of the committee, Mr. Todd and Mr. Voytilla for appearing before the committee. The next item, as we agreed to, is Bill 7, Miscellaneous Statues Amendment Act, 1999. I believe Mr. Arlooktoo has the opening remarks on this bill. Mr. Arlooktoo.

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Bill 7, Miscellaneous Statutes Amendment Act, 1999, amends various statues of the NWT. It corrects errors or inconsistencies that have been identified in the ongoing statute revision project or that have been brought to the attention of the Department of Justice by members of the public or by the staff of the Department of Justice or other departments. In this respect, some changes proposed in Bill 7 consist of grammatical or spelling corrections to either the English or French version of the statute. Other amendments contained in Bill 7 relate to statutes or provisions of statutes that have not been proclaimed in force. The bill repeals sections 5, 6 and 8 of an Act to Amend the Jury Act. The matters dealt with in those sections, in addition to other matters, are addressed in the amendments to the Jury Act contained in this bill.

Most of the proposed changes to the Jury Act clarify the regulation-making powers so that procedural matters may be dealt with effectively in regulations. Bill 7 also repeals an unproclaimed 1992 act amending the Real Estate Agents Licensing Act. Departments responsible for the administration of the various statutes being amended by the Miscellaneous Statutes Amendment Act, 1999, have each reviewed and approved the changes to the statutes under their authority.

The amendments are of such a nature that the preparation and legislative consideration of the individual bills to correct each statute would be time- consuming for the government and the Legislative Assembly. In order for an amendment to be included in the bill, you have to meet the following criteria:

a. It must not be controversial;

b. It must not involve the spending the public funds;

c. It must not prejudicially affect the rights of persons; and,

d.It must not create a new offence or subject a new class of person to an existing offence.

Mr. Chairman, in our view the amendments proposed in Bill 7 meet those criteria. My officials will be pleased to answer any questions you may have. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Arlooktoo. I would like to ask the Chairman or the representative of the Standing Committee on Government Operations to give opening remarks on the review of the bill. Which one is it? Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the Standing Committee on Government Operations reviewed Bill 7, Miscellaneous Statutes Amending Act, 1999, at its meeting on March 23, 1999. The committee would like to thank the Minister of Justice and his legislative counsel for presenting the bill and responding to the committee's questions. The purpose of this bill is to correct non-controversial errors and inconsistencies in various NWT statutes. These include corrections to typographical errors, incorrect section references, errors in grammar and structure and errors in the French translation. The standing committee has no difficulty with this bill. This concludes the standing committee's comments on Bill 7, Miscellaneous Statutes Amendment Act, 1999. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you for the nice report. Before we get into general comments, I would like to ask Mr. Arlooktoo if he wishes to bring any witnesses?

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Yes, I do, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Do we have the blessing of the Members?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Proceed. Thank you. Mr. Minister, would you introduce your witnesses. This is for the record.

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Goo Arlooktoo Baffin South

Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. With me are Legal Counsel, Rebecca Veinott, and our Legal Interpreter, Mr. Philip Melas.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Welcome to the committee. We announce the floor is now open for general comments. Details. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Bill 7, Miscellaneous Statutes Amendment Act, 1999, clause 1. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 2. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. We move on to Page 2, clause 3. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 4. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 5. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 6. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Page 4, clause 7. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 8. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 9. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 10. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Page 5, clause 11. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Page 6, clause 12. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Bill as a whole. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Does the committee agree that Bill 7 is ready for third reading? Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Bill 7 is now ready for third reading. I would like to thank Mr. Arlooktoo and the witnesses for appearing before the committee. Thank you. Now, we move on to another item, as we agreed to, which is Bill 10. Thank you. Moving along accordingly. Mr. Todd, do you have any opening remarks dealing with Bill 10, Forgiveness of Debts Act, 1998-99? Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The purpose of the Forgiveness of Debts Act, 1998-99, is to authorize the forgiveness of certain debts listed in the schedule to the act. Pursuant to section 25(1) of the Financial Administration Act, the forgiveness of a debt or obligation of the government exceeding $1,000 must receive Legislative Assembly approval. When a debt is forgiven or made, no further collection action shall be pursued. The forgiveness being proposed in this act will not require any appropriation. Allowances for doubtful account were charged to an appropriation at the time it was determined that the collection of the debts was considered unlikely.

The account has been recommended for forgiveness as a result of bankruptcies, compromised settlements, and/or in the public interest. In cases where a compromised settlement is reached, the following factors are considered, possibility of future recoveries, the cost of continued legal action and the value of the security. For example, do the personal guarantees hold a reasonable worth? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Todd. I believe we will ask the Minister if he wishes to bring in any witnesses. Mr. Henry, do you have a remark on behalf of the Standing Committee on Government Operations? Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Standing Committee on Government Operations reviewed Bill 10, Forgiveness of Debts Act, 1998-99, at its meeting on March 23, 1999. The committee would like to thank the Minister of Finance and his officials for presenting the bill. This bill would authorize the government to forgive approximately $252,000 in debts. The committee noted that this is relatively consistent within recent years. In the majority of cases, the debts have been discharged by the courts following bankruptcy proceedings. Mr. Chairman, committee Members may have additional comments or questions on this bill during the review in committee of the whole. This concludes the report of the Standing Committee on Government Operations on Bill 10, Forgiveness of Debts Act, 1998-99. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Todd is already seated at the witness table. I do not know if he is ready. Mr. Todd, would you introduce the witness, please.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As always, I have with me the Mr. Lew Voytilla, deputy minister of the FMBS.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. The floor is now open for general comments. Details. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Bill 10, Forgiveness of

Debts Act, 1998-99, clause 1. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 2. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Flip the page over, we have a schedule. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Page 4. Total, $252,533.92. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Bill as a whole. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Does the committee agree that Bill 10 is ready for third reading. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Bill 10 is now ready for third reading. Thank you, Mr. Todd and Mr. Voytilla.

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The Chair John Ningark

We move on to Bill 11, Write-off of Assets Act, 1998-99. Mr. Todd is the lead Minister to make an opening remark. Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Chairman and colleagues. The purpose of the Write-off of Assets Act, 1998-99, is to authorize the write-off of the granular program revolving fund assets listed in the schedule to the act. Pursuant to section 24 of the Financial Administration Act, the write-off of government assets or debts exceeding $20,000 must receive Legislative Assembly approval.

The write-off being proposed in this act would not require an increase in appropriation. The write-off would be charged against Public Works and Services appropriations and will not result in an over expenditure to that department. This write-off is comprised of two components. The first is to reduce the book value of the granular material on hand to the actual surveyed value. The second one is to account for the deterioration of the value of the granular material where there is no market due to lack of requirement or protocol in material where the stock value is too small to monitor on a cost-effective basis, or whether the remaining material is contaminated.

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The Chair John Ningark

That concludes your opening remarks, Mr. Todd? We have Mr. Erasmus to do opening remarks on behalf of the Standing Committee on Government Operations.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Standing Committee on Government Operations reviewed Bill 11, Write-off of Assets Act, 1998-99, at its meeting on March 23, 1999. The committee would like to thank the Minister of Finance and his officials for presenting the bill. This bill would write-off approximately $941,000 in stock piled granular material assets the Department of Public Works and Services held in the granular products revolving fund. In most cases, the write offs reduce the book value of the material to reflect the actual value. In some cases, stock piled material has no current value due to a lack of market, poor quality material by the small size of the stock pile. The committee understands that there will be no further granular production under the fund as it was not cost-effective. Mr. Chairman, the standing committee had no difficulty with this bill and this concludes the report of the Standing Committee on Government Operations on Bill 11, Write- off of Assets Act, 1998-99. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. We shall proceed with general comments. At the witness table we have Mr. Todd and Mr. Voytilla, for the record. General comments. Clause by clause. We are reviewing Bill 11, Write-off of Assets Act, 1998-99. Clause 1. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 2. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Page, schedule, total, $941,402.78. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Bill as a whole?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Does the committee agree that Bill 11 is ready for third reading? Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Bill 11 is now ready for third reading. Moving onto Bill 12. Bill 12, Write-off of Debts Act, 1998-99. Mr. Todd, do you have any opening remarks on behalf of the department? Mr. Todd.

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John Todd Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The purpose of Bill 12, Write-off of Debts Act, 1998-99, is to authorize the write-off of debts listed in the schedule to the act, pursuant to section 24 of the Financial Administration Act. Write-off of government assets or debts exceeding $20,000 must receive Legislative Assembly approval. Pursuant to section 82 of the Financial Administration Act, write-off of debts owed to a public agency exceeding $20,000 must also receive Legislative Assembly approval. The write-off of debts owed to the Workers' Compensation Board exceeding $50,000 must receive Legislative Assembly approval. The write-off being proposed in this act will not require a new appropriation. The write-off will be charged against allowances for bad debts which were established in the department budget at the time it was determined that the collection of the debt would be unlikely.

I wish to emphasize that the write-off of a debt does not relieve a debtor of the liability for repayment or mean that the government will not continue to attempt to collect the outstanding amount through continued reviews by my staff. Future recovery of the debt may still be achieved. In addition, in the case of debts owed by companies, we track down the principals in each company or firm for future credit references. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Mr. Erasmus, in his capacity as Chairman of the Standing Committee on Government Operations, will do the review of the committee. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, at its meeting on March 23, 1999, the Standing Committee on Government Operations reviewed Bill 12, Write-off of Debts Act, 1998-99. The committee would like to thank the Minister of Finance and his officials for presenting the bill. This bill would authorize the government to write-off more than $404,000 in debts. The committee recognizes that some of these amounts may yet be recovered and encourages the government to make feasible efforts to collect the amounts owed.

Mr. Chairman, committee Members may have additional questions or comments on this bill during its review in committee of the whole. This concludes the report of the Standing Committee on Government Operations on Bill 12, Write-off of Debts Act, 1998-99. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. At the witness table we have Mr. Todd and Mr. Voytilla. We are dealing with Bill 12. We are open for general comments. Details. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Bill 12, Write-off of Debts Act, 1998-99, clause 1. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Clause 2. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Schedule E, total, $404,436.86. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Bill as a whole. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Does the committee agree that Bill 12, Write-off of Debts Act, 1998-99, is now ready for third reading?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair John Ningark

Thank you. Bill 12 is now ready for third reading. I would like to thank Mr. Todd, who has been busy, at this time, and Mr. Voytilla for appearing before the committee. That concludes the bill that we were to review as agreed to. I will rise and report progress to the Speaker. Thank you.

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The Speaker Samuel Gargan

The House will come back to order. Item 20, report of committee of the whole. Mr. Ningark.