Thank you, Mr. Henry. I believe we do have on page 11-23, that question can be addressed there. Mr. Henry, we can entertain it here in the overall operation but I believe there is a more specific amount on page 11-23 if I recall correctly, but I will ask the Minister to address that. Mr. Koe.
Debates of April 29th, 1999
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Committee Motion 25-13(7): Resurrecting And Priorizing The Northern Accord Proposal
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 25-13(7): Resurrecting And Priorizing The Northern Accord Proposal
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Koe
Mahsi, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, in terms of capital, the reason we have the guideline of $100,000 I believe is because in the communities which we target the businesses which we own, level three or level two communities, in many cases they do not have buildings or do not have the equipment necessary to start up the business so the capital equipment, the capitalization of new buildings is quite costly so that is why the higher level. It is amortized over a number of years. These normally are one time contributions other than when they are replacing equipment, sewing machines, sawmill parts or whatever. In terms of the operating subsidy, businesses or subsidiaries are allowed to apply annually for ongoing subsidy costs.
Committee Motion 25-13(7): Resurrecting And Priorizing The Northern Accord Proposal
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Jake Ootes
Thank you, Mr. Koe. We are on page 11-19, resource management and economic development, operations and maintenance, $32.537 million. Mr. Erasmus.
Committee Motion 25-13(7): Resurrecting And Priorizing The Northern Accord Proposal
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, just continuing on the NWT Development Corporation, the Minister had indicated on Tuesday that FMBS directed that he undertake an operational audit of the Development Corporation. Did FMBS draw up terms of reference for that operational audit?
Committee Motion 25-13(7): Resurrecting And Priorizing The Northern Accord Proposal
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 25-13(7): Resurrecting And Priorizing The Northern Accord Proposal
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 458
Handley
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, yes. FMB directed that the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development have the operational audit undertaken. RWED, in consultation with the President at the time, drew up the terms of reference.
Committee Motion 25-13(7): Resurrecting And Priorizing The Northern Accord Proposal
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 25-13(7): Resurrecting And Priorizing The Northern Accord Proposal
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, did FMB approve the terms of reference?
Committee Motion 25-13(7): Resurrecting And Priorizing The Northern Accord Proposal
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 25-13(7): Resurrecting And Priorizing The Northern Accord Proposal
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Page 458
Handley
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I do not believe we were asked to take the terms of reference back to FMB and I do not recall that we did.
Committee Motion 25-13(7): Resurrecting And Priorizing The Northern Accord Proposal
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 25-13(7): Resurrecting And Priorizing The Northern Accord Proposal
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, would the Minister mind tabling those terms of reference tomorrow?
Committee Motion 25-13(7): Resurrecting And Priorizing The Northern Accord Proposal
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 25-13(7): Resurrecting And Priorizing The Northern Accord Proposal
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I just realized that you can still table documents today so could the Minister table the terms of reference tomorrow or later today to have them available? Thank you.
Committee Motion 25-13(7): Resurrecting And Priorizing The Northern Accord Proposal
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 25-13(7): Resurrecting And Priorizing The Northern Accord Proposal
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, as I understand it the direction came from FMB, the operational audit is going to be conducted by FMB, so it would be up to the Financial Management Board to decide whether or not it can provide those documents that the Member is requesting for tabling. Thank you.
Committee Motion 25-13(7): Resurrecting And Priorizing The Northern Accord Proposal
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 25-13(7): Resurrecting And Priorizing The Northern Accord Proposal
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I believe Cabinet meets every morning and also the deputy minister had indicated that FMB did not even approve the terms of reference so I do not think they will mind sharing them. Would
the Minister ask tomorrow morning whether he can table the terms of reference and if Cabinet says no, can he share them with the MLAs at least, or myself. Thank you.
Committee Motion 25-13(7): Resurrecting And Priorizing The Northern Accord Proposal
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 25-13(7): Resurrecting And Priorizing The Northern Accord Proposal
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, if there is a meeting of the Financial Management Board I will put the question forward. Thank you.
Committee Motion 25-13(7): Resurrecting And Priorizing The Northern Accord Proposal
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 25-13(7): Resurrecting And Priorizing The Northern Accord Proposal
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I believe that the same people that sit on Cabinet sit on the Financial Management Board, so can he not get the direction at the Cabinet meeting tomorrow?
Committee Motion 25-13(7): Resurrecting And Priorizing The Northern Accord Proposal
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Committee Motion 25-13(7): Resurrecting And Priorizing The Northern Accord Proposal
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, that is the devilment of working in government, it is never as simple as it looks. The fact is, it is a very different. There is a big difference between the Financial Management Board and the Cabinet. The Premier and Members of the Cabinet are made up of Ministers. We deal with business of acting as executive for the government. The Financial Management Board is the financial management arm of the executive, is chaired by the Minister of Finance, so they are two separate functions. Thank you.
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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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The Chair Jake Ootes
Thank you, Mr. Minister. You may have to address your questions to the Minister of the Financial Management Board, Mr. Erasmus. Further questions? Mr. Erasmus.