In the Legislative Assembly on May 13th, 1999. See this topic in context.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to direct my questions to the Minister responsible for the Power Corporation, the Honourable Mr. Dent. Earlier on today, I had asked the Minister some questions regarding Power Corporation unionized employees in the west, and we had established through that discussion, Mr. Speaker, that, in fact, the Power Corporation employees in Nunavut are represented by a different union. Could the Minister tell me what process did the Nunavut employees use to approach the Power Corporation or whoever they approached to be represented by a different union? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Minister responsible for the NWT Power Corporation, Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I now know the proper name of the union I should have referred to earlier. It is the Nunavut Employees Union.. The Nunavut Employees Union is the arm that was created on division of the UNW, so they represent all of the government employees in Nunavut. It was just felt that since the government employees, by their Public Service Act in Nunavut will be represented by the Nunavut Employees Union, Power Corporation employees in Nunavut would most likely be represented by the same bargaining agent. This was agreed to by the corporation, by the UNW and by the Nunavut Employees Union. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my next question to the Minister is, were the western members of the Power Corporation, the unionized western members of the Power Corporation, advised that this would happen? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would guess that technically they were as the UNW was consulted in the decision. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as we all know, the Power Corporation is presently staying together and what one government does can potentially affect the other as regard to Power Corporation workers. Could the Minister advise this House that, if in fact, the Power Corporation workers represented by the Nunavut government settle for a higher wage, how will that affect the costs that will be born by western consumers, Mr. Speaker? Thank you.

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When Members use the word, if, you get a hypothetical situation. Does the Minister wish to respond? Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, there are a couple of points that I should respond to as I think there is some misapprehension by the Member in how he understands the current process. We have a transition agreement between the Government of Nunavut and the Government of the Northwest Territories so that the actions of one government cannot affect the operation of the Power Corporation. The board of the Power Corporation is responsible for running the Power Corporation, not the governments. The governments do not provide direction and the transition agreement quite clearly sets this out. There should be no worry that the actions of one government will affect the return on investment by shareholders in the other territory.

Second, the negotiations are between the Power Corporation and the agents representing the employees. The Government of Nunavut and the Government of the Northwest Territories are not involved in the negotiations directly. The negotiations are being conducted by the Power Corporation management and they are being conducted between unionized workers in the Northwest Territories as one bargaining group, and unionized workers in Nunavut as the other. Should they reach different settlements in each territory, Mr. Speaker, by the terms of the operation of the Power Corporation, there is no cross-subsidization and, in fact, the cost of operation in each community must be recovered from that community, so there is no cross-subsidization even between communities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Oral questions. Final supplementary, Mr. Henry.

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Seamus Henry Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Minster for that information. Mr. Speaker, we all know that presently the Union of Northern Workers are negotiating with the Power Corporation for a collective agreement for their union. We are

also aware, Mr. Speaker, that if an agreement is reached, the opportunity for the employees to have different representation will be gone for some period of time. Other than the membership of that union, not accepting a contract or dragging their feet on that situation, are there any other steps that the workers can take to force this issue for consideration of a change to the NWT Public Service Act? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have already stated earlier today, this cannot be a quick process. There is nothing that can speed it up. I am no labour lawyer, but I would suspect that if we were to agree to make a change in the structure of the regulation of labour in the Northwest Territories, that would not necessarily preclude a change in representation happening in mid-contract. I would be extremely surprised if we were able to respond in the life of this Legislature with the new legislation. The requirement for consultation, and looking at how labour laws would have to change because of the implications to other areas of the public service, this cannot be achieved quickly, however, the process has commenced to seriously look at it. Mr. Speaker, thank you.

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Oral questions. Mrs. Groenewegen.