Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am encouraged to hear that. That is important. Through my experience in resource development, if the people are not ready for certain positions, they always end up being stuck having the worst jobs, the more labour-intensive jobs, the jobs that most people will not want. Truck driver training is great, but I would guess that this would probably be the third, fourth or fifth generation of truck drivers that we are going to be educating. That is not progress, Mr. Chairman.

I do not think it has to be part of this plan to educate people so that they could get into the more technical and professional area of development. I hope that a long-term plan is going to be developed for the life of the Mackenzie Valley pipeline, for example, so that we try to keep the kids in school now and get them into the professional areas with consultation and cooperation with industry.

I think we need to get more people from communities into university. Again, I take this opportunity to encourage the Minister to look at devolving the responsibility for the delivery of education within our communities. For example, Mr. Delorey tabled a petition from his community wanting to take control of their education system locally. It has to be done more often.

The Dogrib region through the community services board proved to us as clearly as possible if you apply the money that is given to you the way you know your people are going to react to it, then success will follow.

The Dogrib took an average of 20 to 50 university students all the way to 150 in just a matter of four or five years. While this department has been in this business since 1967 and their statistics are going up, but I have to admit that it is a turtle's crawl.

I appreciate the work the department has put into this, but then again, as my other honourable colleague said, it is a great campaign slogan. I do not know what kind of relationship you will have with the new Minister of Human Resource Development if there is going to be a new Minister of Human Resource Development, but this is very ambitious, Mr. Chairman.

I am not quite comfortable putting my signature to this when we do not know if there is a pipeline coming down yet. We do not know if we are going to get dollars for this. The work is done and the plan is in place and I wish you all the luck in implementing this plan, but I stress the need to start training our people in other areas rather than the labour intensive, the truck drivers. We have to start putting our benchmarks up and targeting that benchmark, Mr. Chairman. With that, I thank you.