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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. These contracts, as they vary with the ones that we know about, are included. To the best of our knowledge, the ones that were fairly clear about what the annual commitment is are included. Where the contracts may vary, have been changed through the course of the year, we have included only what we think we require based on the historical basis for the first four months. These will become available to the Members through the quarterly report. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Maybe I should ask the question another way. Are any of these contracts, these numbers that we have listed here for a whole year? Is the retainer contract that is in place there for a whole year?

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Minister Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We are not clear exactly which ones are and are not the larger ones. We are pretty sure it is for the entire year. For instance, the contract with Mr. Elliott and the amount for Fort Resolution and Fort Providence, the Integrated Management Committee work. But other than that, I think most of the smaller ones are historical spending based on four months. If the Member wants to know precisely, we can provide that information. We just do not have that available right here. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The reason I ask is that in the case of the diamond consultant, we are paying $225,000. That is for four months. So, realistically, that is why I ask, is this a one-year contract or is it a four-month contract? So we can make clarification if that is for one year or for four months. We are talking one quarter of the season, adding on eight months to it is almost $700,000. The question I am trying to put is this number that is presently on the books is $225,000. If that is for four months, we are actually talking $700,000 if it is based on a one-year contract. Can the Minister tell me exactly, is that a one-year contract or is that for four months?

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Minister Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The $225,000 shown for contract with Mr. Elliott is for the whole year. We know that is what it was last year. So it is not just for a quarter. The other amounts that we have listed here, as I have said, we can provide a list as to which ones are funding for the first four months based on historical spending. We will give that to the Member. We just do not have that available right here.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I look forward to getting that information. On another matter, economic development contracts or the program itself regarding business grants, we know that there are, presently, very limited resources that are out there for helping small business, to start to look at economic business plans and to get the business sector going. Can the Minister tell if there are any new dollars that are going to be coming forth in the new fiscal year regarding the projected dollars that are there now? They are very limited. I would like to know if we are going to be seeing any increases in the next year in that area compared to the limited resources we have now.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Minister Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It is far too early to comment on it. Of course, it is always good to have additional resources made available to promote businesses, whether it is in grants or contributions, especially to our communities, but it is far too early to make that comment. As to whether or not there is going to be an increase this year, we will be dealing with that through the business planning cycle. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

General comments. Mr. McLeod.

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to ask a question regarding oil and gas initiatives and if we can count on seeing some dollars spent in the area. As the Minister is aware, many of the communities in my riding, the Hay River Reserve, Kakisa, Fort Providence, are spending a great deal of time on educating themselves as to the process as indicated. We have a lot to learn on the diamond industry, the same case for oil and gas. There are other communities out there throughout the Deh Cho, Nahanni Butte, Trout Lake, that are all also trying to bring themselves up to speed on gas initiatives. Many of them are working on planning and setting up management plans and impact agreements and drafting different documents. I would like to ask the Minister if there was any money earmarked this coming year as part of this interim appropriation for oil and gas, as I believe last year there was very little, if any. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Minister Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I believe we are providing additional dollars for the first four months, of $185,000. That is to put one person in the Delta, another person in the Sahtu and one in the Deh Cho to help communities in the regions, support them in their efforts and interests in getting them to understand and involved in the oil and gas business. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Mr. McLeod.

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you. I am glad to hear that. I have a question on a different matter, and it is something that Mr. Miltenberger referred to and is of great concern to me, regarding the BDF funding for this year. I understand from the Minister's answer that it has not been defined as to what the budget is going to be. I have a very sincere concern as the last year, I believe the BDF budget for the South Slave Region, of which the Deh Cho riding sits in, received only $200,000, and that was spent by the end of June. I am very concerned this may be the case again. I would really like to have a more definite answer, if I could, as the money may be spent before the new budgets are even set. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Minister Kakfwi.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We try to allocate money on a fair and equitable basis. It is true that some communities and regions have a high demand, a lot of proposals coming forward that use up the contribution allocations made available to them rather quickly. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Mr. McLeod.

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Michael McLeod

Michael McLeod Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. One final question regarding the letter you submitted to Mr. Roland. You indicate in there, on an item for Kakisa regarding Lady Evelyn Falls, I am assuming it is to do a park expansion, that the scope of the work was reduced and funding moved to the master plan and the remainder of funding will move to various South Slave projects. Could you clarify what that is all about and what it means?

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

The deputy minister, Mr. McLeod.

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Bob McLeod

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My understanding is that in the previous plan, it was anticipated that work would be done to expand the Lady Evelyn Falls campground area across the road and to increase the capacity. At this time, that project has been reduced and now it has been planned for a longer period of time. Thank you.