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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That is unfortunate, considering that in the Northwest Territories one of our greatest resources is forestry. There is a large inventory of forestry in the south side of the Mackenzie. I am just wondering if there has ever been a feasibility study being done to utilize the forestry industry in the Northwest Territories.

One of the communities in my riding is in the sawmill industry. One of the problems they have is trying to find a market for that industry. An idea that was to go out a couple of years ago and never really followed through was to build a manufacturing plant in a local area on the south side where the transportation link will be good, to build prefab homes that could be sold on the open market within the Northwest Territories, Nunavut, Alaska, anywhere else in the world, actually. I am just wondering if the Housing Corporation has ever done a feasibility study to see if the costs to the Housing Corporation by using such a manufacturing plant will be beneficial to the Housing Corporation in terms of savings? Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you, Mr. Nitah. This question can be answered by the Minister, but I think it is relates to another Minister. I will let him go ahead. Minister Allen.

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We are not aware of any previous studies, but I would just like to talk to the idea we have been discussing with other departments in terms of prefab homes, manufactured homes. We know that there was one manufactured home business here in town heavily supported by not only the Housing Corporation, but also by Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development.

The future of affordable housing in the Northwest Territories is quite viable using our own resources. We talk about using smaller mills, building log homes where logs are fairly accessible to the community. We believe in our own analysis that we can build more affordable homes in using imported lumber. If the Member cares to know more about that, it is part of our overall four-point strategy. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Nitah.

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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Log homes are great, but unfortunately not everyone in the Northwest Territories will want log homes. For those that do, it is available and if it is cheap, it is great. My thinking is that we should be manufacturing homes of different styles, using northern lumber manufactured in the North, cut in the North by people in the North.

I know in Nunavut alone they need 2,000 homes today. That is without projections. The biggest cost they incur when they are building up there is the time it takes to put a house together. The short summer season does not allow them to finish the job. The work then goes into the following year and that is a cost overrun.

There have been studies done by private groups who say they could design a home, prefab it and send it anywhere in the Northwest Territories and put it together for around $285 with a team of four or five individuals. This, incidentally, is just enough for EI, for a lot of those guys who are working seasonal work. I am wondering if there has been a feasibility study done by the Housing Corporation in that area? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Minister Allen.

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Chairman, there is no feasibility study that we are aware of that has been conducted to determine what the costs were. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Nitah.

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Steven Nitah Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. One final question or maybe a request. Will it be the responsibility of the Housing Corporation, or maybe the Housing Corporation could find out how to do a really short preliminary work in that area and they would save this government a lot of dollars in the long run and also provide lots of employment and develop a manufacturing industry with a new housing market and develop the forestry industry. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you for the suggestion for the Minister. Do you wish to answer?

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, again, Mr. Chairman. That is the reason we are travelling to the various regions. From a regional perspective, we are finding that it is probably more feasible to use locally produced products, such as logs in the South Slave, probably in the Deh Cho. It varies from region to region. So it is important to know that if we are looking at the need to meet the overall housing needs and housing shortages. We do have to work within the specific budget.

In terms of developing vocational skills, we feel that a portion of that has to come from another department in terms of financial investment. Again, we are dealing with another department, so all this, Mr. Chairman, should come together by May 15, 2000. Hopefully, we can then share that very document with our fellow colleagues.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. General comments. Mr. Bell.

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think that we all know that the North is going to experience an aging of its population. In Yellowknife, we are specifically concerned about providing housing units for seniors. We know we are a magnet community. We know that there will be continuing escalation of demand. I am wondering if the Minister can tell me what the department's plan is to meet the needs of seniors for housing, if they have done any projections that would let us know exactly what they think this demand will be, and whether or not they are going to be in a position to meet this demand?

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. The Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation, Mr. Allen.

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If the Member is speaking specifically about Yellowknife, then I would ask the president of the NWT Housing Corporation to respond to that question. Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Beaulieu.

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Beaulieu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We do have the projections of need, also based on the ages of the individuals and needs, et cetera. It is not difficult for us to pull the numbers together to determine what the needs will be in Yellowknife in the future and what the current needs are. We do not have a specific plan right now to expand more senior units in the city of Yellowknife.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Bell.

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If it is deemed that demand warrants it, we would certainly look at expanding to provide more housing for seniors in Yellowknife. Is that correct, given that we know we are a magnet community? We know that people will be migrating here, especially as they age, to access services, health care, et cetera. It would only make sense, I think, that we could anticipate a growing demand for seniors' housing in Yellowknife. If we could determine there was going to be growing demand, would we then put in place the capital dollars to find and build new homes for seniors? Thank you.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. The Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation, Mr. Allen.

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Again, I would ask the president of the NWT Housing Corporation to answer that question.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Beaulieu.

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Beaulieu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Once we have reviewed the needs survey and we have compared the seniors' needs in Yellowknife to the other communities, and if the needs in Yellowknife are greater than other communities, then we will look at providing something in Yellowknife. I am not sure if it would be standard construction of a seniors' facility but it might be that there could be something available already in Yellowknife that the Corporation could lease.

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The Chair Leon Lafferty

Thank you. Mr. Bell.

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Can the Minister tell us if the NWT Housing Corporation provides funding for the Aven Senior Centre in Yellowknife? Could he also let us know what the vacancy rates are like? They have many open units just waiting to be filled and no real demand. I am wondering if he can tell me if that is the case.