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Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would just like to know if the Minister has some different wording for the forced growth and expenditures resulting from significant increases in the cost of heating fuel and power in the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, I will ask Mr. Voytilla to give us the detail on this one as he did with the other department. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Mr. Voytilla.

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Voytilla

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. There was a reconciliation that we provided to the committee as part of the additional information. Health and Social Services had been able to build in on fuel price increases into the budget, $74,000, which related to Stanton. They had that information in time to get it into the main estimates. They then accumulated the information for the balance of the Health and Social Services boards. That appeared in Supplementary Appropriation No. 1. That was another $910,000 for health and social services facilities in the Northwest Territories.

This is the balance of the requirement this year that they are requesting. In total, their request is over a million dollars, about $1,300,000, a million and some of which has already been submitted and approved.

This particular $370,000 is $131,000 for -- I believe the fuel price increase, they had not calculated before and received funding for, and $247,000 relative to power rate increases. That is the additional information that we have for the Member.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Voytilla. Primary and acute care programs, not previously authorized, $1,470,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Total department, not previously authorized, $1,420,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

We will go to Justice, operations expenditures, services to government, not previously authorized, $25,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Public legal services, not previously authorized, $223,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Community justice and corrections, not previously authorized, $62,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Total department, not previously authorized, $310,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

We will go to the NWT Housing Corporation, operations expenditures, not previously authorized, $1,300,000. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just in this area, and I will go back to the Minister's budget address where he states that in fact, in this fiscal year, we are operating, and I go back to Hansard, page 1014, February 15, 2001:

In fact, this budget includes almost one million dollars in additional funding to the Housing Corporation to pay the increased fuel costs for public housing and a million to maintain power support programs.

So we have already, in this fiscal year we are in, increased our budget limits by a million dollars and now, through this, we are again seeking another $1.3 million. I must say that the information the Minister provided us when it comes to actual prices of heating fuel and so on are somewhat dated. That just does not help the process. For example, we get information to help us look at this -- the petroleum products division retail price list, prices effective November 1, 1996. The latest one we have, sort of an up-to-date, goes to January 1, 2001.

I mean, we are getting one set of information when we raise this and we have to go through this process here to try to get more detail, so I would like to know in this one, what has -- give me some numbers that would set off the increases that are above and beyond the increase that were built into the budget that we are operating with in this fiscal year? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, the budget for the Housing Corporation was increased by $967,000, almost a million dollars, as the Member referred to the budget address. Since then, we have had approximately a million dollar increase as a result of the electrical rate increases that we could not predict at that time. Then there is an additional $300,000 for additional fuel increases. I think the information we have here is consistent with what the Member has said. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Handley. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What were the original estimates based on? What prices for fuel products was the initial budget based on? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, the original $967,000 would have been based on the fuel increases that we were aware of at that time, so it takes us back to late summer/fall of 2000. The increases since that time are for any additional rate increases or fuel price increases that we have seen since.