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Return To Question 340-14(3): Fuel Subsidy Rebate Eligibility
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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have been advised that yes, they will be treated in the same manner because they are similar, the home heating fuels. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Allen. Supplementary, Mr. Bell.

Supplementary To Question 340-14(3): Fuel Subsidy Rebate Eligibility
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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I assume they would be treated similarly, but I am just suggesting that the Minister responsible for Finance indicated that $640 was the average increase and that this rebate would offset 50 percent of that hardship. I think it is much less significant for those who are on propane because the increases have been greater. Would the Minister indicate whether or not they have looked at the costs that homes on propane have had to endure? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 340-14(3): Fuel Subsidy Rebate Eligibility
Question 340-14(3): Fuel Subsidy Rebate Eligibility
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Bell. The honourable Minister responsible for Housing, Mr. Allen.

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have been advised that yes, there is an acknowledgement that the prices have increased as well and they will be treated the same as home heating oils. We will definitely take a look at that as well.

Further Return To Question 340-14(3): Fuel Subsidy Rebate Eligibility
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Allen. Supplementary, Mr. Bell.

Supplementary To Question 340-14(3): Fuel Subsidy Rebate Eligibility
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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would hope that the department will take a look at that. I know the propane has doubled, more than doubled in comparison to home heating oil. I also wanted to ask about this idea that we are shooting for ease and simplicity here and maybe at the expense of fairness. We are already asking households, I assume, to prove that they are in fact paying heating bills. We are probably already asking them to prove that they are already not receiving other subsides, say from a corporate entity. Would the Minister indicate that this is in fact the case and we will have to do that? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 340-14(3): Fuel Subsidy Rebate Eligibility
Question 340-14(3): Fuel Subsidy Rebate Eligibility
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Bell. The honourable Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation, Mr. Allen.

Further Return To Question 340-14(3): Fuel Subsidy Rebate Eligibility
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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am not clear on the exact question, but I do want to make a comment here. This program was just announced during the budget session on Thursday of last week, so we are doing a lot of preliminary work trying to iron out all the wrinkles here and, if we can, come to some immediate conclusion so we can begin the rebate program. That is the objective of the Housing Corporation taking over the program at this point. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Allen. Final supplementary, Mr. Bell.

Supplementary To Question 340-14(3): Fuel Subsidy Rebate Eligibility
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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I take it from the response that we have not quite worked out the details yet and we are hurrying to do that. I am wondering if the Minister can look into another matter. We talked about a commercial truck toll that will increase the price of fuel and I am wondering if he will consider that when he looks into the rebate. This $320 could quickly be eaten up by the increase in commercial tolls. Will the Minister look into that as well? Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 340-14(3): Fuel Subsidy Rebate Eligibility
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Bell. I think that question would probably be better answered by the Minister responsible for Finance, however, we will have to direct it to the Minister responsible for Housing. Minister Allen, if you choose.

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, again, I would just like to say that we will deal with this issue as we try to assess the costs of rising fuel costs. I just want to reiterate my previous answer. This is preliminary. We will try to keep the House informed of how we are going to administer this program and implement it as rapidly as we can. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Allen. I would just like to remind Members about the rules for questions. The preamble for supplementaries, according to your rules, should be much shorter as you get onto the supplementary questions. So if you would indulge the Chair by limiting your preamble in your supplementaries. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for North Slave, Mr. Lafferty.

Question 341-14(3): Highway User Toll
Item 6: Oral Questions

February 19th, 2001

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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister responsible for Finance, the Honourable Joe Handley. In the budget address, the Minister proposed the introduction of a highway user toll on commercial trucking in the Territories. This money raised from this toll would go into a highway trust fund. One of the dilemmas we face in the Territories is that when we increase our revenues, there is a drop in federal funding. I would like to ask the Minister, has the government looked at what implications this toll will have for federal funding on future northern developments? I wonder if the federal government will have a claw back. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Question 341-14(3): Highway User Toll
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Finance, Mr. Handley.

Return To Question 341-14(3): Highway User Toll
Question 341-14(3): Highway User Toll
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, I can assure the Member that for the life of the current financing formula, there will be no claw back of this revenue. That is again through the toll. With regard to future formula financing agreements, how this will be treated will be subject to negotiations between myself and the federal Minister responsible for Finance. Thank you.

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Handley. Supplementary, Mr. Lafferty.

Supplementary To Question 341-14(3): Highway User Toll
Question 341-14(3): Highway User Toll
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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As a result of the toll, there will be increases all over the Territories and we know we will be giving fuel rebates to residents of the Northwest Territories. Are we going to be giving extra rebates to the communities that are only accessible by air who are paying, whether they have a road to them or not? We know the freights and travel costs will be increased to these communities to make up for these tolls. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Supplementary To Question 341-14(3): Highway User Toll
Question 341-14(3): Highway User Toll
Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Finance, Mr. Handley.

Supplementary To Question 341-14(3): Highway User Toll
Question 341-14(3): Highway User Toll
Item 6: Oral Questions

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, as I mentioned in my budget address, we are intending and working on a Northern Tax Credit Program. That one will be on top of the current northern tax credit. That tax credit is there to help Northerners with the rising cost of living in the North. It will be available to all income earners in the Northwest Territories whether they live in communities on roads accessible by road or whether they are in fly-in communities, it will not make any difference. Thank you.

Supplementary To Question 341-14(3): Highway User Toll
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Handley. Supplementary, Mr. Lafferty.

Further Return To Question 341-14(3): Highway User Toll
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Leon Lafferty North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I understand the Minister's department is looking at this, but I would like to ask the Minister if he could look at giving an extra rebate to the communities that are fly-in communities that have no road to them. We are making them pay for the extra costs even if we are not putting infrastructure into the communities. To me, this is not fair and I ask the Minister if his department can look into giving extra rebates to those communities who are being double charged? Thank you.

Further Return To Question 341-14(3): Highway User Toll
Question 341-14(3): Highway User Toll
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The Speaker

The Speaker Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Finance, Mr. Handley.

Further Return To Question 341-14(3): Highway User Toll
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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, as I mentioned earlier, everyone will be eligible for the increased tax credit that we are making available as long as they have some income or they make application through their income tax. The fly-in communities will get the benefit the same way as everybody else does. So certainly it should be a fair system. It is very difficult under our current income tax arrangements with the federal government to be able to have a tax credit program that is different depending on whether there is an all-weather road, winter road or no road at all to your community. So we have to treat all people the same under the tax administration system we work with. Thank you.