Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I do not want to spend too much time on this, but it has been my experience and the experience of the North that once industry moves in, the people start filling those positions, whether it is at the beginning of the construction period or during the operations. Once a person is in there, it is pretty hard to remove them.

Look at our Affirmative Action Policy. Why do you think we do not have a lot of aboriginal people or people who qualify under the Affirmative Action Policy within the public sector? Unions and rules and policies do not allow us to get rid of people from positions that we could fill with our own policy designates.

I strongly encourage the department to look a few years down the road and apply their resources and training programs so that people are able and qualified to fill upper-management and middle-management positions within industry starting today.

Let us not train them on how to use a chain saw or how to drive a truck. Let us look into the future a little bit and design a program around what we see in the future, not today.

Getting back to the public service training, I am just wondering if these training dollars are available for employees of non-governmental organizations or aboriginal governments who deliver programs and services on behalf of this government through contractual arrangements? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.