Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is our expectation that a draft energy paper, whether it is called a strategy or a consultation paper, will be brought to Cabinet in the next few weeks. Once there is discussion and acceptance of it, it will go to Members of the Legislature with a discussion on how to proceed, to have also public consultation, if any, around that particular document. That is the expectation we have. Thank you.
Debates of Oct. 17th, 2002
This is page numbers 981 - 1018 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was power.
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Return To Question 350-14(5): Introduction Of The Energy Strategy
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The Speaker
Thank you, Mr. Premier. Supplementary, Mr. Krutko.
Supplementary To Question 350-14(5): Introduction Of The Energy Strategy
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I think the Premier may be shaking the magic wand, praying that this will be the thing that gives us all the tools we are going to need to deal with energy and what not, but my understanding of the draft report to date, it is nothing more than a verbal wastage of wording. I think that if he is thinking that this report is going to salvage what is happening here today, I believe he is wrong.
I would like to ask the Premier, exactly how crucial a report would this interim report be to salvage our energy initiatives or requirements in the Northwest Territories? How intense a report are we looking at, since he has mentioned that it is only an interim report?
Supplementary To Question 350-14(5): Introduction Of The Energy Strategy
Question 350-14(5): Introduction Of The Energy Strategy
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The Speaker
Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The honourable Premier, Mr. Kakfwi.
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The intent of the paper is to facilitate discussion and give some overall context to the direction that Cabinet and this Legislature hopefully will take in regard to energy conservation, the transmission, all the different aspects of energy, both supply and market, and give some overall contexts to the discussions and the decisions we need to have in the next few months.
I think some people will benefit from the broadening of the scope with which they view individual issues. Some people may not benefit from it, but it is our hope that through the development of this paper, that all Members of the Legislature, the Cabinet and the public will see energy in an overall, global context, international context, national, in all its various forms with all the relevant issues clarified so that we can make decisions on an individual basis about how we should view energy, how we use it and how it should be provided to us. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 350-14(5): Introduction Of The Energy Strategy
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The Speaker
Thank you, Mr. Premier. Supplementary, Mr. Krutko.
Supplementary To Question 350-14(5): Introduction Of The Energy Strategy
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Mr. Speaker, regarding the costs associated with all of these reports, we mentioned the Robertson report. We have had different energy initiatives. We have non-renewable resource strategies. We have strategies coming out of our ears, but yet, Mr. Speaker, a lot of times we find these strategies sitting on the shelf collecting dust. A good example is the Robertson report.
I would like to ask the Minister, do we have a count of all of the expenditures to date of all strategies that have been put in place by this government, and exactly what is the cost to the public?
Supplementary To Question 350-14(5): Introduction Of The Energy Strategy
Question 350-14(5): Introduction Of The Energy Strategy
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The Speaker
Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The honourable Premier, Mr. Kakfwi -- two questions there.
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am not certain that we have a cost identified in detail attached to each strategy that we have prepared in the last few years, but if they are available, we will certainly share it with the Member. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 350-14(5): Introduction Of The Energy Strategy
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The Speaker
Thank you, Mr. Premier. Final supplementary, Mr. Krutko.
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the Premier, knowing that the group that probably would have benefited most from the one-rate zone in regard to all of the strategies and initiatives we put in place, but I think a lot of times this government loses sight of small communities, and those communities who are on diesel dependency. In his comments, he kept referring to hydro and those types of initiatives, but in most cases, a lot of communities we represent do not have hydro.
I would like to ask the Minister, exactly what comfort is he going to give to those communities who are diesel dependent in regard to having the high cost of power, the high cost of energy? What is he as a government going to do to bring down those costs in our small communities so that we have a fair distribution of power in communities in the Northwest Territories?
Supplementary To Question 350-14(5): Introduction Of The Energy Strategy
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The Speaker
Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The honourable Premier, Mr. Kakfwi.
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Stephen Kakfwi Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I believe all of the communities want to be engaged in a discussion about how power should be supplied to them and the policies under which this government will facilitate that. Communities also want to talk about conservation, the impact on the environment, strategies like the Kyoto Protocol, the agreement and the impact that will have, as well as the benefits. Communities want to learn more about conservation, so that the high cost of power in the communities can be minimized through conservation measures, and the kinds of policies that we shall adopt that will minimize the environmental impact of the initiative we will undertake. Hydro is one that is being considered in some areas in the Northwest Territories, and people need a broad base of information and framework under which to engage in the discussion.
We know that at the end of the day, everyone in the small communities is saying to us "We want a way in which to reduce the cost of our power bills on a monthly basis. We want to pay less for our businesses, for our hamlets, for our band councils. That is what we want." If people are convinced that a one-rate zone system is the answer, of course they will flock to that.
Our business is to provide as many options as we can to the public and to make sure the information is there, so people can make wise choices, including ourselves. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 350-14(5): Introduction Of The Energy Strategy
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The Speaker
Thank you, Mr. Premier. The time for the extended question period has ended. Item 8, written questions. Item 9, returns to written questions. Mr. Clerk.
Return To Written Question 4-14(5): Initialling Of The Final Dogrib Claim
Item 9: Returns To Written Questions
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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton
Mr. Speaker, I have a Return to Written Question asked by Mr. Nitah on June 18, 2002. Mr. Nitah asked whether the Dogrib Final Agreement would be initialled before certain issues and questions surrounding the Dogrib claim were resolved.
After the question was asked, the Dogrib Agreement was officially renamed the Tlicho Land Claim and Self-government Agreement.
On August 2, 2002, I wrote to Mr. Nitah explaining that an internal review was underway, that the review included the issues he had identified and that it would be completed before Cabinet authorized the GNWT chief negotiator to initial the agreement. That review was completed in August and Cabinet authorized the chief negotiator to initial. The initialling took place in Wha Ti on September 4, 2002.
The first initialling of the Tlicho Agreement was an important step in the process to allow the full contents of the Tlicho Agreement to be made public. The parties are now in the process of undertaking a comprehensive public information and review process that allows all individuals, aboriginal governments and other organizations that may be interested in or affected by the agreement to provide comment and to seek further information or clarification. This process and the comments received will form the basis for changes the parties may agree to make in finalizing the agreement.
Following the information and review process, the GNWT's chief negotiator will return to Cabinet to report on the results and on any changes made by the negotiators. At that time Cabinet's authorization will be sought to initial the final Tlicho Agreement and to formally recommend it for approval and ratification.
Return To Written Question 8-14(5): Application Of NWT Payroll Tax To Non-resident Northwestel Employees
Item 9: Returns To Written Questions
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Clerk Of The House Mr. David Hamilton
Mr. Speaker, I have a Return to Written Question asked by Ms. Lee on June 19, 2002, regarding the application of NWT Payroll Tax to non-resident NorthwesTel employees.
All employees of NorthwesTel, whether resident or non-resident, are subject to the Payroll Tax Act. During the NorthwesTel strike, the Department of Finance did contact the payroll department of NorthwesTel to ensure continued compliance with the Payroll Tax Act. NorthwesTel was aware that the payroll tax is an employee tax that applies to remuneration earned in the Northwest Territories, regardless of the employee's place of residence. Employees of NorthwesTel who normally work outside the NWT, but who are temporarily assigned to duties in the NWT, are subject to the tax on the remuneration earned in the NWT, if the income earned here exceeds $5,000.
Temporary workers hired by NorthwesTel to be employed in the NWT for the duration of the strike and who, on conclusion of the strike, terminated this employment, would have been deemed to be "normally working in the Northwest Territories" and therefore liable to the tax on all remuneration earned while employed with NorthwesTel.
Return To Written Question 8-14(5): Application Of NWT Payroll Tax To Non-resident Northwestel Employees
Item 9: Returns To Written Questions
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The Speaker
Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Item 9, returns to written questions. Item 10, replies to opening address. Item 11, petitions. Item 12, reports of committees on the review of bills. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South, Mr. Bell.
Bill 1: Human Rights Act
Item 12: Reports Of Committees On The Review Of Bills
October 17th, 2002
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Brendan Bell Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to report that the Standing Committee on Social Programs has reviewed Bill 1, Human Rights Act, and wishes to report that Bill 1 is ready for consideration in committee of the whole as amended and reprinted.
Mr. Speaker, at this time, I would like to request unanimous consent to waive Rule 93(4) and have Bill 16, which I reported to the House yesterday, moved into the committee of the whole for today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Bill 1: Human Rights Act
Item 12: Reports Of Committees On The Review Of Bills
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The Speaker
Thank you, Mr. Bell. The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent to waive Rule 93(4). Are there any nays? There are no nays. Bill 16 is moved into committee of the whole for today. Item 12, reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 13, tabling of documents. The honourable Minister responsible for Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Antoine.
Tabled Document 58-14(5): NWT Business Credit Corporation 2002 Annual Report
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to table the following document entitled, Northwest Territories Business Credit Corporation 2002 Annual Report. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Tabled Document 59-14(5): Business Development Fund Annual Report And Recipients Report, 2001-2002
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents
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Jim Antoine Nahendeh
Mr. Speaker I also have a second document I would like to table. Mr. Speaker, I wish to table the following document entitled, Business Development Fund 2001-2002 Annual Report and Recipients Report. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Tabled Document 59-14(5): Business Development Fund Annual Report And Recipients Report, 2001-2002
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents
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The Speaker
Thank you, Mr. Antoine. Item 13, tabling of documents. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Krutko.
Tabled Document 60-14(5): Statement By Gwich'in Chiefs Regarding Prioritizing Our Goals And Objectives
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to table a statement by the Gwich'in chiefs in regard to prioritizing our goals and objectives instructing the Government of the Northwest Territories to take on more initiatives to developing our economy and working with aboriginal groups in developing the pipeline.
Tabled Document 60-14(5): Statement By Gwich'in Chiefs Regarding Prioritizing Our Goals And Objectives
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents
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The Speaker
Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Item 13, tabling of documents. Item 14, notices of motion. Item 15, notices of motion for the first reading of bills. The honourable Member for Weledeh, Mr. Handley.
Bill 27: An Act To Amend The Elections Act, No. 2
Item 15: Notices Of Motion For The First Reading Of Bills
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Joe Handley Weledeh
Mr. Speaker, I give notice that on Monday, October 21, 2002 I will move that Bill 27, An Act to Amend the Elections Act, No. 2, be read for the first time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.