Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my other concern was with regard to the seniors who had their own units, private residency, and then they made a choice. They thought they were going to be treated better by either relinquishing their houses to other family members and they moved into a housing unit of this government, being told that they would not be paying any rent. We are reviewing that and now we are going to charge them. Could you check and see what the implication of that will be on the seniors who gave up their own housing units to move into public housing?
Debates of Feb. 21st, 2002
This is page numbers 49 - 88 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was health.
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Supplementary To Question 42-14(5): Harmonization Of Housing And Income Support Programs
Question 42-14(5): Harmonization Of Housing And Income Support Programs
Item 7: Oral Questions
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Supplementary To Question 42-14(5): Harmonization Of Housing And Income Support Programs
Question 42-14(5): Harmonization Of Housing And Income Support Programs
Item 7: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The honourable Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation, Mr. Allen.
Further Return To Question 42-14(5): Harmonization Of Housing And Income Support Programs
Question 42-14(5): Harmonization Of Housing And Income Support Programs
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Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, that is one of the areas that is well thought out. Again, that is going to be part of the discussion on a one-on-one basis with seniors, so that we can ascertain whether there was a commitment on the part of a previous government. Then it becomes more of a question of whether we are obligated to honour that commitment. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Further Return To Question 42-14(5): Harmonization Of Housing And Income Support Programs
Question 42-14(5): Harmonization Of Housing And Income Support Programs
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Supplementary To Question 42-14(5): Harmonization Of Housing And Income Support Programs
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the other area that I also touched on was pensions. A lot of these people have 20 or 30 years with either this government or they have worked their way through industry and they built up their pensions over the last number of years and they are now living off those pensions. They earned that pension.
I would like to know if the government is going to look at the pensions, knowing that some of these people have put a lot of money into these pensions and now we are going to be clawing them back based on a certain percentage. I would like to ask the Minister if he will also do a thorough review on the average pensions and also the ones at the maximum end of the scale and the ones at the minimum, to ensure that we are not taking anything more back from the seniors than we would be taking back from other clients of the Housing Corporation?
Supplementary To Question 42-14(5): Harmonization Of Housing And Income Support Programs
Question 42-14(5): Harmonization Of Housing And Income Support Programs
Item 7: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The honourable Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation, Mr. Allen.
Further Return To Question 42-14(5): Harmonization Of Housing And Income Support Programs
Question 42-14(5): Harmonization Of Housing And Income Support Programs
Item 7: Oral Questions
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Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will speak in the context of the NWT Housing Corporation Act where we may be able to introduce several options to the seniors. Again, in the context of public education, we want to make the seniors aware that they are entitled to heating fuel subsidies, taxation subsidy and a number of other subsidies that are in place. We want to take a comprehensive look at what we can do to assist those seniors who will be adversely impacted and then again, try to prorate what level of rent will be assessed. We want to give them an opportunity, if they want, to elect to go back into home ownership or perhaps remain in public housing units. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Further Return To Question 42-14(5): Harmonization Of Housing And Income Support Programs
Question 42-14(5): Harmonization Of Housing And Income Support Programs
Item 7: Oral Questions
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Supplementary To Question 42-14(5): Harmonization Of Housing And Income Support Programs
Question 42-14(5): Harmonization Of Housing And Income Support Programs
Item 7: Oral Questions
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David Krutko Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister also commit to have a thorough inquiry or review with all senior societies and seniors in general up and down the Valley, and take the time to ensure that they are being properly heard and that we are finding a mechanism here where we do not shortchange the seniors by this harmonization that is taking place?
Supplementary To Question 42-14(5): Harmonization Of Housing And Income Support Programs
Question 42-14(5): Harmonization Of Housing And Income Support Programs
Item 7: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Krutko. The honourable Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation, Mr. Allen.
Further Return To Question 42-14(5): Harmonization Of Housing And Income Support Programs
Question 42-14(5): Harmonization Of Housing And Income Support Programs
Item 7: Oral Questions
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Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. One of the guiding principles in the harmonization, and the reason why we proposed a deferral, is to take a comprehensive approach to how we want to deal with all seniors across the NWT.
I think when the Member expresses those details, we need to comply with that request because we did talk to several seniors. Some indicated support for the program and others indicated they were not in support. We need to look at it overall and come back to the Members with some certainty as to how the seniors feel and where they would be most impacted. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Further Return To Question 42-14(5): Harmonization Of Housing And Income Support Programs
Question 42-14(5): Harmonization Of Housing And Income Support Programs
Item 7: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Minister. Item 7, oral questions. The honourable Member for North Slave, Mr. Lafferty.
Question 43-14(5): Legal Opinion On Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Item 7: Oral Questions
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Leon Lafferty North Slave
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, the Honourable Jake Ootes. I would like to ask the Minister what funds were used to pay for the legal interpretation on the clawbacks of IBAs and PBAs when he received this interpretation? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Question 43-14(5): Legal Opinion On Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Item 7: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes.
Return To Question 43-14(5): Legal Opinion On Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Question 43-14(5): Legal Opinion On Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
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Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not believe there were funds involved in terms of the transaction. It was provided by the Department of Justice. Thank you.
Return To Question 43-14(5): Legal Opinion On Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Question 43-14(5): Legal Opinion On Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
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Supplementary To Question 43-14(5): Legal Opinion On Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
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Item 7: Oral Questions
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Leon Lafferty North Slave
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am glad the Minister cleared that up. Since we know that the Department of Justice is representing the public, and the funding that was used was public funds, why is the Minister, Cabinet or the department withholding this public information? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Supplementary To Question 43-14(5): Legal Opinion On Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Question 43-14(5): Legal Opinion On Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Item 7: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. I would just caution Members on the language. The honourable Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes.
Further Return To Question 43-14(5): Legal Opinion On Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Question 43-14(5): Legal Opinion On Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Item 7: Oral Questions
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Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In many cases, a lot of the opinions provided are such that they are provided on a confidential basis. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 43-14(5): Legal Opinion On Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Question 43-14(5): Legal Opinion On Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Item 7: Oral Questions
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Supplementary To Question 43-14(5): Legal Opinion On Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Question 43-14(5): Legal Opinion On Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Item 7: Oral Questions
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Leon Lafferty North Slave
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As we all know, everybody in the House here is working for the public and to be withholding information paid by the public from the public is not right. Could the Minister please work with his colleagues and his department to see if he cannot give the information to the public? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Supplementary To Question 43-14(5): Legal Opinion On Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Question 43-14(5): Legal Opinion On Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Item 7: Oral Questions
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The Speaker Tony Whitford
Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Ootes.
Further Return To Question 43-14(5): Legal Opinion On Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Question 43-14(5): Legal Opinion On Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Item 7: Oral Questions
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Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Certainly through the provision of a summary of this, we can provide the information that was provided. I think it will be clear what information was contained in that document. Thank you.
Further Return To Question 43-14(5): Legal Opinion On Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Question 43-14(5): Legal Opinion On Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
Item 7: Oral Questions
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Supplementary To Question 43-14(5): Legal Opinion On Impact Benefit Agreement Payments
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Item 7: Oral Questions
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Leon Lafferty North Slave
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have an obligation to the public to give them everything that we have and we should be accountable for everything. I would ask the Minister that when he gives the information out that he does not summarize it, but that he gives us everything. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.