Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It is good to put the ownership back into the communities if it is working for the public. I would just like to use a few examples. I remember five or six years ago when the programs were taken over by the local LHO, training and the employment was great. Employing people is great, but there was also supposed to be training and trying to put apprenticeship programs in place. That was one of the reasons or a few of the reasons and affordability was one of the reasons. More local control of who gets help and the reason that it was put in local control was they knew the people, they knew who needed help the most or supposed to have anyway.

It seems to me that we are getting away from all that when in some of the communities that I have been around and asking questions I have been finding out there is no training at all, there are no apprenticeship programs out there. The employment is happening, that is good, but at the end now I see that the client is the one that is paying the most. The client is paying for outside contractors coming in and doing the electrical, the plumbing and all the specialized work. That is still happening. The local control was not supposed to create a trades position and getting people out there to create trades so that one day they can maybe be self-employed. That is not happening. Why is it not happening? Are they not expressing it enough in their agreements that that is what the agreements are all about? Thank you.