This is page numbers 301 - 340 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was housing.

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Committee Motion 5-14(5): Biannual Statistics On Rent Supplement Units And Developers Loan Guarantees (carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Allen.

Committee Motion 5-14(5): Biannual Statistics On Rent Supplement Units And Developers Loan Guarantees (carried)
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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. At this point, we are observing the political process. I am not sure if we are in a position to answer that, but again, we are trying to deal in with some sort of context with the Ministry of Aboriginal Affairs to include ourselves in some formal discussion, but at what level, I cannot determine at this point. Thank you.

Committee Motion 5-14(5): Biannual Statistics On Rent Supplement Units And Developers Loan Guarantees (carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Allen. Mr. Krutko.

Committee Motion 5-14(5): Biannual Statistics On Rent Supplement Units And Developers Loan Guarantees (carried)
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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If it is appropriate, if the Minister could refer his question to the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs and see exactly what is the position of this government with regard to self-government and the administration of housing programs and services through those negotiations?

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Does the Minister want to refer the question to the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs?

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Chairman, I believe we are now on the NWT Housing Corporation and I am not sure that question is relevant to our budget. However, we did have some informal discussions with the Beaufort-Delta Regional Council, but I would suggest that perhaps we keep to this budget. Thank you.

Committee Motion 5-14(5): Biannual Statistics On Rent Supplement Units And Developers Loan Guarantees (carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Allen. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I believe this is the Minister's budget and these are the Minister's words, and I want to repeat them for him, "The Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation provides assistance to advise the self-government land claim issues in relation to the Housing Corporation's interests and objectives." It is right here in black and white. The reason that we are here with regard to the committee of the whole doing their business to see exactly where are these issues. Again I would like to ask the Minister, where does the Housing Corporation stand with regard to self-government agreements and what will happen to the Housing Corporation as we know it once those agreements are concluded?

Committee Motion 5-14(5): Biannual Statistics On Rent Supplement Units And Developers Loan Guarantees (carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Allen.

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Again, our level of involvement is to provide adequate information to the self-government agreement processes, and also in the context of the amount of work we have doing at the community level through our own process, which is under the universal partnership agreements and through the project authority agreements. Beyond that, Mr. Chairman, it is difficult for me to define precisely the nature of our advice beyond providing information to the negotiation processes. To us, Mr. Chairman, it is a difficult question to respond to in full detail. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Allen. Mr. Krutko, do you have another question?

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to see that detail when the Minister has more time. If he can, could he maybe get his people to try to evaluate that detail and see exactly where the Housing Corporation is going to go in light of self-government negotiations? What is going to happen to the delivery of housing programs and services that are currently under the mandate of this government in those areas where self-government agreements are being negotiated? What happens at the conclusion of those negotiations in regard to the Housing Corporation? If the Minister cannot provide that to me now, it would be nice if we could get it in the next short while.

Committee Motion 5-14(5): Biannual Statistics On Rent Supplement Units And Developers Loan Guarantees (carried)
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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Allen.

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have just been advised that it is still under discussion through the AIP discussions. Perhaps with the indulgence of the Minister responsible for Aboriginal Affairs, if I may ask the chair to agree that he can provide a short answer to the question, if you could oblige to that request? Thank you.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Allen. Mr. Antoine, did you care to address that issue?

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, with regard to the honourable Member's question that the corporation provides assistance and advice on the self-government land claims issue as related to the Housing Corporation interests and objectives at the negotiating table, we have been negotiating a number of items with the Beaufort-Delta in the self-government talks, with the Gwich'in and the Inuvialuit jointly for the Beaufort-Delta negotiations. Housing is one item that has been negotiated. We are getting close to finalizing the agreement-in-principle. It has not been signed off by all parties yet. Following that we still have to go through the final agreement. As the honourable Member knows as a former negotiator, it still has a long way to go. It is the subject of negotiation at this point in time. What is going to happen at the end of this whole process, that has to still be finalized through agreements. Thank you.

Committee Motion 5-14(5): Biannual Statistics On Rent Supplement Units And Developers Loan Guarantees (carried)
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Does the corporation have a memorandum or a legal opinion on this matter?

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Allen.

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes I am advised that we do have a lawyer who does provide us with legal opinions and legal advice, and we will continue to follow this very closely in the context of the Member's questions. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Allen. Mr. Krutko.

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David Krutko

David Krutko Mackenzie Delta

Is there any possibility of being privy to those legal opinions for Members in this House?

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Mr. Allen.

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Roger Allen

Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will certainly evaluate the importance of those legal opinions provided as is consistent with the regular process. Thank you.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Allen. We are on page 8-15, information item, policy, programs and informatics. Page 8-17, information item, finance and administration.