Well, that's exactly my point. In order to stay within public housing and in arrears you have to make the attempt to pay or you get booted out. Yet we know of hundreds of thousands of dollars that's been basically spent and never repaid. Also we have major outstanding debts with different agencies of this government; the Power Corporation, the Housing Corporation. What attempts are we making for them to pay down their debt? Yet we're getting elderly people in social housing in the Northwest Territories to have to pay off their arrears. When is the government going to get those people who owe us some arrears too, like the Power Corporation and Housing Corporation, to pay down some of our debt? That's where it's coming from is those two organizations. If we're going to go after the elderly lady with cancer, why couldn't we go after those corporations that continue to spend and never pay back their debt?