We have not yet had a reasonable response to this, Mr. Chairman. The Minister has avoided that issue all day today. The discussion paper that has been put in front of the standing committee will not lead to an answer that we can deal with this on, because he earlier today, in question period, said he's not prepared to spend money he doesn't have. You can't deal with this issue unless the government is prepared to put some money on the table. That's really what it comes down to. Without money to take the inequity off the table, it's not going to be dealt with.

The discussion paper talks about four options, and they're so broad. Each one of the options is so broad it doesn't clearly define what it is we're talking about. There's no definition. He can't expect that the Standing Committee on Social Programs is going to come back to him and say, "Oh yes, we think that you should do number three and know exactly what's in there because it doesn't explain to us exactly what would be included in number three."

So I don't think that it's led to a productive discussion today, to say well, I'm just waiting for the Standing Committee on Social Programs to get back to me on this issue. The standing committee has let the Minister know, in no uncertain terms, what our position is on the medical travel co-payments. The Minister doesn't need to meet with us to hear from us about that again. This message was sent more than four months ago, and we're still waiting for a reasonable response. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.