Thank you. We are in detail. Page 9-9, directorate and administration, operations expense, total operations expense, $5.015 million.
Debates of Feb. 26th, 2003
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Advanced Education And Careers
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Page 9-11, advanced education and careers, operations expense, total operations expense, $70.654 million. Mr. Dent.
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Charles Dent Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have a question about student financial assistance. I understand that the program has a requirement of a certain length of time before someone can qualify for it. Is that still the case? If so, what is that length of time?
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Jake Ootes Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Chair. The requirement is 12 to 26 weeks.
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Charles Dent Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Can we get an explanation of the reason for the rule requiring a minimum of 12 weeks?
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Thank you. Minister Ootes.
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Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, it's quite simply that that is usually the length of a semester. That's the case where we were following the Canada student loan guidelines.
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Thank you. Mr. Dent.
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Charles Dent Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I believe that both the Northern Alberta Institute of Technology and the Southern Alberta Institute of Technology are accredited institutions for purposes of student financial assistance, are they not?
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Minister Ootes.
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Mr. Dent.
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Charles Dent Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I understand that NAIT is offering one of their projects on an 11-week schedule now, whereas SAIT maintains a 12-week schedule. I have been approached by parents of students who have tried to attend NAIT and have been refused student financial assistance simply because the exact same program, exact same qualifications, exact same certificates at the end of it, in one institution is one week shorter than the other. To me, it doesn't strike me as being fair that we should arbitrarily put a time limit on a program when everybody says it's the same program. It's just that they go for longer hours during the 11 weeks, that they attend one institution as compared to the other and wind up with the same certificate. We won't pay student financial assistance for one student to go to NAIT, but we would for a student to go to SAIT. How do we justify that?
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Thank you. Ms. Allen.
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Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes
Yes, Mr. Chairman. The program that was 12 weeks in length is eligible for student financial assistance, even in Alberta under their system as well. The one that is 11 weeks is not a full-time program. I believe -- and I will check this -- that it is a part-time program. Thank you.
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Thank you. Mr. Dent.
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Charles Dent Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate finding that out. The information I had from the parent was that it was the exact same program with the exact same certificate at the end. If it's not, that might explain the issue. One other worry that I have some questions on and I know that the Minister has spoken about, is that the college is hoping to offer a bachelor of education next year. I was just wondering if he could outline for us what the timeline is for the different majors that may be offered through the college. I expect we will only be able to offer one in the early years, but is there a plan to expand on that so we could offer more majors in the North? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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Thank you. Ms. Allen.
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Roger Allen Inuvik Twin Lakes
I am so pleased you asked that question. Based on the comments that we got from standing committee, we talked to the University of Saskatchewan about looking at other majors. We are looking at students who do their access or first year program in the North, and then go down for the high school specialties, in which case they could start taking majors in such subjects as history, English, et cetera, et cetera. So we are looking at them, and that should occur very shortly.
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Thank you. Mr. Dent.
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Charles Dent Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm glad to hear that that's going to be expanded. Are we talking about expanding the majors right through the fourth year as well, and, if so, when Ms. Allen says fairly quickly, are we talking within two years, four years, six years? Could I get a sense of the time?