Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate the Minister reiterating very clearly what the problem is, except that wasn't my question. It seems to me the Minister is saying this is going to be an ongoing process and the department is working on it, but obviously the longer we leave this definition hanging, it's going to get affirmed and it would become the fact. I would like to know - and I have other questions, so I don't want to pursue this for a long time - the task we have on this is to convince the board, and when will we know whether we have succeeded or not in changing their mind about this definition?