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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the Mackenzie River is a very important feature of the Northwest Territories, especially in my region where the river empties out into the Beaufort Sea and water levels play a very important factor in the wildlife and where it stays during the summer season, as well as how people can travel throughout the Delta.

During different times of the year, the natural cycle, I guess, would be in spring there's a high water level filling a lot of the lakes that don't normally hook up to the river systems and so on. But there have been a number of years where, in fact, we've seen either low water levels throughout the year, which is not a normal process, or high water levels. During freeze-up it would begin to freeze at that level, and then the water levels would drop causing shelf ice, as one term would be used, and being quite dangerous for those who use the waterways in the wintertime: hunters and trappers with snow machines and so on, and even building ice roads.

I see here you have the Mackenzie River Basin Board, and it's a contribution to properly manage the aquatic ecosystem. I'd like to know what has been done on that in recent years, and what impact we can have. I'm looking more to the future here, because watching the news and so on, we hear about Alberta's situation and the Prairie provinces situation with droughts and low snow levels, even in the mountains, and that run-off not being there. Is there a potential here that they could hold water back on us through the dams that they have in place? I know that's where we seem to get most effect from, when they either let some water run off or else they hold back on water being spilled over. So I'd like to know what we manage to accomplish or get through this board. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Mr. Chairman, the Mackenzie River Basin Board is a board that is very important to us. There's cooperation with Yukon, B.C., Alberta and the Saskatchewan governments in looking at the ecosystem. As you know, the Mackenzie River is a huge river basin. The headwaters are in all the different provinces and the other territory is mentioned. So there is a working relationship there. We have representation on there that expresses all these concerns. There is monitoring going on on the Bennett Dam, as well as on global warming in the North. There definitely are changes to our weather system and, as a result, it has an impact on our waters. We're very concerned about the quality of the water and the flow. Certainly this board was put in place to look at all aspects of it, and I think it will continue to play a bigger role in the future. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Through this board, is there opportunity to impact the amount of water that is let out, for example through the Bennett Dam, because as provinces conserve their water supplies or possibly cut back on that, it significantly impacts throughout the Mackenzie Valley. So through this board, is there opportunity to address those kinds of issues? Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Antoine, you're indicating the question to Mr. McLeod. Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Yes, Mr. Chairman, I'd like to ask the deputy to reply to that. He has more details on the different bilateral agreements with the other jurisdictions that are in place or being developed. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. Mr. McLeod.

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Bob McLeod

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Mackenzie River Basin Board was 25 years in the making. I guess the original idea started with the original oil and gas rush in the Beaufort-Delta. What happened is that a master agreement was negotiated with all of the jurisdictions that had water flowing into the Mackenzie River Basin. The master agreement sets out the process, which establishes a board and jurisdiction and some dispute resolution mechanisms. It's also envisaged that each jurisdiction would negotiate bilaterals with each other, which would include water quality and water quantity objectives, as well as ecosystem indicators. So on the water quality side, that's where the concerns are addressed about run-of-the-river issues, water being held back by the Bennett Dam, and having seasonal flow stream patterns. So those are the kinds of issues that we envisage the board dealing with when it's fully operational. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. General comments. Sorry, I have no one on my list. On page 11-11, corporate management, grants and contributions, total contributions. Mr. Bell.

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just quickly before we move past 11-11. I'm wondering if the Minister could indicate the $620,000 for Mackenzie Valley development contributions, an ongoing NRRDS strategy initiative. Can the Minister indicate what those strategies are?

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bell. Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Mr. Chairman, we have such a big pile of paper here so we just want to find the list. In these main estimates we're requesting $620,000, and there is a list of strategies through the non-renewable resource development strategy that we have. We just need to get that information provided here. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. Mr. Bell.

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you. If the Minister doesn't have that handy as to what these initiatives are that we're funding, then I'll take the information in writing and he could provide that if he doesn't have it in front of him.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bell. Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Yes, we have the information here. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. Mr. McLeod.

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Bob McLeod

Thank you. The largest part of the expenditures in previous years was the funding that was provided to the Aboriginal Pipeline Group for the Mackenzie Valley pipeline. That is dropping off because of the successful completion of the business plan for the Aboriginal Pipeline Group. The $620,000 essentially is funding for capacity building that's provided to the Inuvialuit Regional Corporation, the Gwich'in Tribal Council, the Sahtu Secretariat, and a number of communities in the Deh Cho. Essentially that's the money that's accounted for under the $620,000. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Mr. Bell.

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you. Are those contributions just sort of general contributions in the area of capacity building, or are there some programs that they were expecting or are being delivered? Is it a contribution, or is it specifically tied to certain programs that relate to capacity building?

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bell. Mr. McLeod.

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Bob McLeod

Yes, they are all contributions.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Page 11-11, grants and contributions, total contributions, $1.410 million.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed