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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Of that, how much is used for outside consultants?

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

For contract services, we budgeted $320,000.

Bill 3: Appropriation Act, 2003-2004
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. Mr. Roland.

Bill 3: Appropriation Act, 2003-2004
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Mr. Chairman, we are paying a fair sum of money for... is it one individual or is it more than one? Thank you.

Bill 3: Appropriation Act, 2003-2004
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

We have two on contract. One is negotiated with us, De Beers. The other we have on contract 10 days a month. Thank you.

Bill 3: Appropriation Act, 2003-2004
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. Mr. Roland.

Bill 3: Appropriation Act, 2003-2004
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am looking at the numbers. We are at almost $600,000 for travel and by the sounds of it two-and-a-half consultants, 10 days a month. That's fairly expensive for a very busy shop by what earlier comments were made by the Minister. So hopefully we are getting value here in that sense and actually accomplishing something. For example, since the Minister has my attention, with the 10 days that we have for a consultant a month, what is that contract costing the department on a yearly basis? Thank you.

Bill 3: Appropriation Act, 2003-2004
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland. Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

I don't have that exact breakdown. It's lumped in here together. I could get that number for the Member. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Bill 3: Appropriation Act, 2003-2004
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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. Mr. Roland.

Bill 3: Appropriation Act, 2003-2004
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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to receive that information, so if the Minister could make it available, that would be much appreciated. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Page 11-17. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I was reading through the description of the activity on page 11-16, and couldn't help but notice that under diamond projects, we talk about the development of a skilled workforce. I had thought that ECE was providing the subsidies for training on the job and that the college was involved in training. What is RWED doing here that can be classified as development of a skilled workforce?

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Yes, in RWED we work with ECE, as well as Arctic College on the different training committees and also in the job strategies, job descriptions. We are working with the Diamond High Council. They are also involved with us from Antwerp to give us ideas on what kind of jobs are there because we don't have the expertise there and we need that to develop the training. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thanks, Mr. Chairman. I know that ECE has been extensively involved with the Diamond High Council in developing the standards for certification for the trade of polishing. I was just a little surprised to see that RWED was also involved in that. I wonder if I could get an understanding of what is meant by regulation of the new industry trade. That almost sounds like regulating polishers, which is the trade that is certified. Again, I thought that was an ECE responsibility. Why do we have overlapping responsibilities in the areas of training? I thought it was the role of Education to look after all of that.

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

I think it's a shared responsibility because ECE has the training expertise and within the diamond project and working relationship with the diamond industry, there is diamond expertise there. So there is co-development of certification and development of the job descriptions. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Antoine. Mr. Dent.

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Charles Dent

Charles Dent Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As I understood it, the job descriptions and the descriptions for certification were developed in conjunction with not only the Diamond High Council, but people who have been in the trade for many years, from Europe in particular. Hasn't that all been done? We've got the trades out there and we have young people being certified, so why would we still have any involvement in this? It's an ongoing thing. I would think Education has got the staff to cover certification. They were involved in developing the standards. Why do we have to duplicate?

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The Chair Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Dent. Mr. Antoine.

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Jim Antoine Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The intention is not to duplicate, but we are working together with Education, Culture and Employment and Arctic College in developing a diamond industry. By making sure that we have all the different jobs in the industry -- the diamond industry is very complex, as the Member probably knows -- there are different jobs throughout the whole system and we continue to work closely with Arctic College to develop the type of work that is required so that we have a truly successful diamond industry here in the North. Thank you.