Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the clarification and indeed MACA was represented by Mr. Ian Legaree and he did a good job of representing the department there. If there is such a division, such a gap in understanding and agreeing on where we want to go collectively with this group that represents such a large body of volunteers who are so critical to it, how can the Minister be so adamant as to say we are going to go ahead with this anyway without saying we still need to do some work to resolve our differences? Why is he pushing so hard? Thank you.