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Bill 15, An Act To Amend The Workers' Compensation Act
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

June 9th, 2003

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Does the committee agree that the Minister bring in witnesses?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Sergeant-at-Arms, please escort the witnesses in.

For the record, Mr. Minister, could you introduce your witnesses?

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, with me is Penny Ballantyne, president of the Workers' Compensation Board; Mike Triggs, corporate secretary and general counsel with the Workers' Compensation Board; and, Mark Aitken, director of the legislative division with the Department of Justice.

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The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Welcome, witnesses. We're dealing with Bill 15, An Act to Amend the Workers' Compensation Act. Are there any general comments on the bill? Mr. Bell.

General Comments

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I won't take much time. Mr. Dent, I think, has already hit all the points that we had raised in committee. I just wanted to say that I think this does go some distance in addressing many of the concerns that injured workers have been raising, and I'm glad to see this bill will be passed before this assembly is dissolved. I think it's also important to keep in mind here that this doesn't address everything that was proposed and suggested in Act Now, and that there are two phases. This really is phase one of the legislative update and shortly following this, we hope, will be phase two, which will seek to address a number of the other recommendations in Act Now

There is one point that I wanted to ask the Minister about, and that is this issue of adequacy of benefits. The Minister and the staff of the board have agreed to look at this, I understand, but I'm wondering if there shouldn't be some sort of a provision for continual adjustments, that we take into account the cost of living. It's possible that this already exists, but maybe the Minister could answer that and also indicate when the last time was that these benefits were adjusted and looked at. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Minister responsible for the Workers' Compensation Board, Minister Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, I think it's a good point. One of the things that this proposed legislation that we have in front of us here does, is move a lot of the provisions for adequacy of benefits into regulation, so that it's easier to make adjustments, than has been the case in the past, when it's in legislation. A lot of the adequacy issues are tied to the YMIR, and we do make that adjustment annually. So the most recent one would have been several months ago when we adjusted the YMIR.

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

General comments. Mr. Bell.

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Thank you. I know this is slightly outside the scope, but I understand from our research that we're roughly pretty much middle of the pack on benefits, if you compare them across different areas where benefits are provided to injured workers. Given our high cost of living, it does seem inadequate. You would think that we would need to be at or near the top of the pack. Would the Minister agree with that assessment?

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The Chair

The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Handley.

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Joe Handley

Joe Handley Weledeh

Mr. Chairman, maybe I'll let the president, Penny Ballantyne, just give us the information on how we stack up with the rest of the jurisdictions.

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Mrs. Ballantyne.

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Ballantyne

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, in response, the board has as one of its goals always to be in the top three in the country for YMIR, or the year's maximum insurance remuneration. We have stayed in the top three in the country for some years now. When the board is making the recommendations to the Minister on adjustments to YMIR, it sets being in the top three in the country as its benchmark goal.

With respect to some of the other benefits, for example, the clothing allowance, it's true that the clothing allowance is out of date, and one of the reasons for that is that it has, up to this point, been in legislation, so it's been very difficult to change those amounts. We have to come back here to do it. Moving that type of allowance into regulation, along with YMIR, gives us the ability to make those adjustments on a much more frequent basis. So I'm hopeful that in future we'll be able to keep up with the adequacy provisions of the benefits we offer. Thank you.

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The Chair David Krutko

Mr. Bell.

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Brendan Bell

Brendan Bell Yellowknife South

Okay, thank you for that. I think that certainly is something that we look forward to, and it makes sense that we be able to deal with something that should change more frequently in regulation so that we're not handcuffed in that we need to do this legislatively. I would just like to thank the Minister and the board for bringing this bill forward. I think it is a step in the right direction. I think there's more we can do, and I look forward to seeing that next phase. Thank you.

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The Chair David Krutko

Thank you, Mr. Bell. General comments to the bill. Does the committee agree to go clause by clause?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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Clause By Clause

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The Chair David Krutko

Agreed. Clause 1.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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Clause 2.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

---Agreed

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Clause 3.

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Agreed.

---Agreed

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