Debates of Oct. 20th, 2004

This is page numbers 855 - 890 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

Topics

Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
Tlicho Community Service Agency Act
Establishment Of Official Languages Board And Aboriginal Languages Board
New Deal For NWT Community Governments
Emerging Crisis With Youth In The Nwt
Need For Addiction Services
Concerns Of Health Services
Congratulations To Graduating Students Of Deninu Kue
Safety Of Public From Bear Encounters
Disparity Of Power Rates In The Nwt
Cibc Run For The Cure
Cleanup Of Contaminated Soils
Resource Sharing Of The Diamond Industry
Recognition Of Family
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Treatment Options Available For Youth In Trouble
Cleanup Of Contaminated Sites In The Sahtu
Availability Of Northern Drug Addiction Services
Sustainability Of The Diamond Industry
GNWT Financing Of Federal Responsibilities
Level Of Police Services In The Deh Cho
Staffing Appeals Process
Funding For Fort Resolution Youth Centre
Steps Taken To Address Encounters With Grizzly Bears
Impact Of Youth Criminal Justice Act
Status Of Somba K'e Lodge
Somba K'e Lodge Use As Treatment Centre
Written Question 45-15(3): Youth Treatment Programs
Written Question 46-15(3): Costs Related To Wrongful Dismissal Suits
Tabled Document 73-15(3): Legal Services Board Of The NWT 2002-2003 Annual Report
Tabled Document 74-15(3): Legal Services Board Of The NWT 2003-2004 Annual Report
Tabled Document 75-15(3): Northwest Territories Coroner's Service 2003 Annual Report
Tabled Document 76-15(3): Agricultural Products Marketing Act 2003-2004 Annual Report
Appointment Of Sole Adjudicators
Appointment Of Human Rights Adjudication Panel Members
Single Power Rate Zone
Bill 15: Tlicho Community Services Agency Act
Bill 16: Northwest Territories Business Development And Investment Corporation Act
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Bill 10: Forgiveness Of Debts Act, 2004-2005
Item 22: Orders Of The Day

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Roland. At this time is it the committee's wish that the Minister bring in his witness or witnesses?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Mr. Roland, would you like to bring in your witnesses?

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Yes.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Would the Sergeant-at-Arms please escort the witnesses in please? Thank you.

Thank you. At this time, Mr. Minister, you can introduce your witness please. Thank you.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I have with me today Mr. Lew Voytilla, secretary to the Financial Management Board. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you. Committee, general comments? Detail?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you. At this point in time we will defer the clauses, but we will go with the schedule and go to page 5 on detail. Is that okay with committee?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Page 5, is that agreeable?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We are not able to find page 5, some people on this side. Is that the page that says budget and evaluation, is that page 5?

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Yes.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Okay, so it's page 5 of the schedule.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Page 5 of the 2003-2004 Supplementary Appropriation Act, No. 4 on the detail booklet. Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

Thank you on that. There is $231,000 for the loan guarantees associated with the default on the loan guarantee agreement with Sirius. Could I just get the Minister to state again why the government had to incur this $231,000 in expenditures?

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Can we get back in order here? Maybe I will just read out what we have, what we are going to deal with here, and then we will go to the questions.

Okay, the Department of the Executive, operations expenditures, Financial Management Board Secretariat, budget and evaluations, not previously authorized, $231,000. To Ms. Lee's question to the Minister.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, when this file had come forward and we realized that we had to account for this, we had built the $3 million amount that would be the potential loss, but that went over our appropriation amount by the amount given of $231,000. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you. Ms. Lee.

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Sandy Lee

Sandy Lee Range Lake

I'm sorry; I still don't understand why we had to pay out $2.69 million.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Mr. Roland.

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Floyd Roland

Floyd Roland Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It wasn't a matter of actually paying out. We had accounted for the potential loss and loss in this situation, but we did not have the amount that was required for the total that was called on at that point. Maybe for more detail I'll have Mr. Voytilla give a going over of this. Thank you.

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The Chair

The Chair Calvin Pokiak

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Voytilla.