Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Mr. Minister, for the response. Yes, it was very difficult as a regular Member to arrive at what the real numbers were, so if the Minister can ask the deputy ministers and the other Ministers of the departments to allow us to see what the real costs are in terms of travel, I think that would be beneficial for us. I know there's a 25 percent reduction. I don't know if that goes far enough. I don't know the real numbers, so it's very hard to make a decision of what we should do with that, Mr. Speaker.

I guess my final question is can we get the real numbers? I know he's going to ask, but I want to know if we can get the real numbers on travel, department by department. The medical travel, the student financial travel, things like that, that's not what we're trying to tackle here. We're trying to tackle the travel that's really unnecessary in this government. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.