On page 11-26, the other expenses of $21.827 million are comprised of $673,000 for travel and transportation; $664,000, materials and supplies; $398,000 for purchased services; $1.217 million for utilities; $18.282 million for contract services; $160,000 for fees and payments; $94,000 for other expenses; $155,000, tangible assets; and, $184,000, computer hardware.
Debates of March 22nd, 2004
This is page numbers 113 - 182 of the Hansard for the 15th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.
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Committee Motion 3-15(3): To Delete $120,000 From The Financial Management Board Secretariat Budgeting And Evaluation Re Foregone Interest, Defeated
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Committee Motion 3-15(3): To Delete $120,000 From The Financial Management Board Secretariat Budgeting And Evaluation Re Foregone Interest, Defeated
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Is that under contract services, the $18.273 million that this division acquires the service for fire suppression?
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Committee Motion 3-15(3): To Delete $120,000 From The Financial Management Board Secretariat Budgeting And Evaluation Re Foregone Interest, Defeated
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Committee Motion 3-15(3): To Delete $120,000 From The Financial Management Board Secretariat Budgeting And Evaluation Re Foregone Interest, Defeated
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Committee Motion 3-15(3): To Delete $120,000 From The Financial Management Board Secretariat Budgeting And Evaluation Re Foregone Interest, Defeated
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Earlier the Minister explained that he agreed that the travel budget for fire suppression probably should not be included as a travel budget as it was put out or it was put together in that document that we received. So under this section, does the $7 million worth of travel expenses come under contract services here?
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Brendan Bell Yellowknife South
Yes, it does and the reason we were using 2002-03 numbers for travel is because we had to make sure we were all going from the same number and it was the year that we had complete data for, so that's why we used it as a base year and we were stuck with the old method of accounting for travel. As I have indicated, in future years it will be broken out so we won't have it lumped together in that regard.
Committee Motion 3-15(3): To Delete $120,000 From The Financial Management Board Secretariat Budgeting And Evaluation Re Foregone Interest, Defeated
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Committee Motion 3-15(3): To Delete $120,000 From The Financial Management Board Secretariat Budgeting And Evaluation Re Foregone Interest, Defeated
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. How much of that $18.283 million is on the fire suppression? Is that the total amount for one contract?
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Committee Motion 3-15(3): To Delete $120,000 From The Financial Management Board Secretariat Budgeting And Evaluation Re Foregone Interest, Defeated
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Brendan Bell Yellowknife South
Mr. Chairman, it's a combination of fire suppression, a number of contracts...
---Laughter
Mr. Chairman, for the detailed breakdown, I am going to go to Mr. Kennedy to provide that detail. Thank you.
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Kennedy
Okay, there are two components to that. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. What we have done, as the Minister had mentioned, because in prior years, because it's all aircraft, we had the funds charged to travel and transportation. We've since changed it. The contract services now are where the aircraft and presuppression and suppression are. So your pre-suppression is at $12.5 million and your suppression dollars are $4.8 million. That's the breakdown.
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Sandy Lee Range Lake
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That gives me $17.3 million. Could I have the balance, please?
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Kennedy
The balance is actually in forest development, which is part of the total activity, but it's not part of the suppression or pre-suppression. So that's the balance of what the $880,000 is.
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The Chair David Ramsay
Thank you for that clarification, Mr. Kennedy. Any other comments on page 11-26?
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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Committee Motion 3-15(3): To Delete $120,000 From The Financial Management Board Secretariat Budgeting And Evaluation Re Foregone Interest, Defeated
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.
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The Chair David Ramsay
Page 11-28, forest management, grants and contributions, grants, total grants, $100,000.
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Some Hon. Members
Agreed.